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    jamil

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    This just runs counter to my list of urgencies. If a couple are on the verge of divorce, one spouse is abusing the kids and the family is in a state of constant turmoil, their credit card debt it a very low priority.

    If it takes borrowing to create a coalition to secure the border and gain control of the swamp I will co-sign…
    Simple. take the glocks and the clocks away. Not much you can do about the inbreeding tho.

    Wait. I may be conflating threads.
     

    jamil

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    Yeah. I mean if we can sign 4 Trillion Dollar bills to pay for Covid and still have enough support to get reelected. Might as well run on spending 6 Trillion to secure the border.......and draining the swamp which wouldn'd be a swamp if he could have done it the first time. Which if he couldn't do it the first time, why should I believe he can the second?

    I mean if he can't remove lifetime civil servants, then I am willing to be told exactly how the swamp will be drained and why it was not possible the first 2 years of the last go around.

    Because he has a proven record of success.
     

    Ingomike

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    and draining the swamp which wouldn'd be a swamp if he could have done it the first time. Which if he couldn't do it the first time, why should I believe he can the second?

    I mean if he can't remove lifetime civil servants, then I am willing to be told exactly how the swamp will be drained and why it was not possible the first 2 years of the last go around.
    Why keep asking the same questions over and over? I have explained this so many times. There is a big learning curve to being President. I truly believe that most of them think they can play nice and become the most successful and popular President ever. Trump thought he would win his enemies over and he would be a moderate popular President.

    Sure, they throw a few red meat EO’s out early for supporters but I have yet to see a guy go in and the first day say FO I’m doing it. Trump now understands the swamp, and has a plan for trying to rein it in. That is evident by the EO’s he began late in his term, when he knew who he could trust far better than when he began.

    So let’s recap, Trump has real world experience and knowledge to take on the swamp and has already done the learning curve. Desantis must still cover the learning curve and has no national experience, no matter how good he is he must navigate the learning curve…
     

    foszoe

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    Why keep asking the same questions over and over? I have explained this so many times. There is a big learning curve to being President. I truly believe that most of them think they can play nice and become the most successful and popular President ever. Trump thought he would win his enemies over and he would be a moderate popular President.

    Sure, they throw a few red meat EO’s out early for supporters but I have yet to see a guy go in and the first day say FO I’m doing it. Trump now understands the swamp, and has a plan for trying to rein it in. That is evident by the EO’s he began late in his term, when he knew who he could trust far better than when he began.

    So let’s recap, Trump has real world experience and knowledge to take on the swamp and has already done the learning curve. Desantis must still cover the learning curve and has no national experience, no matter how good he is he must navigate the learning curve…
    I don't elect people so they can go to Presidential College OJT. I also don't prefer to vote for people who sign Trillion dollar spending bills.

    I also don't prefer to vote for people to learn how to drain the swamp so they can do it the second time around once they went to school.

    Quit using your favorite campaign slogans and tell me exactly how he will go about draining the swamp. What is the plan?

    Otherwise, blah blah blah.
     

    DragonGunner

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    This just runs counter to my list of urgencies. If a couple are on the verge of divorce, one spouse is abusing the kids and the family is in a state of constant turmoil, their credit card debt it a very low priority.

    If it takes borrowing to create a coalition to secure the border and gain control of the swamp I will co-sign…
    Money arguments are the second leading cause of divorce, behind infidelity. High levels of debt and poor communication lead to stress and anxiety when it comes to finances. Nearly half of couples with $50,000 or more in debt say money is their top reason for arguing. I rest my case.

    Our government has been screwing us for years, and then putting us in debt...but hey, keep going and vote for more. Brilliant.
     

    Ingomike

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    I don't elect people so they can go to Presidential College OJT. I also don't prefer to vote for people who sign Trillion dollar spending bills.

    I also don't prefer to vote for people to learn how to drain the swamp so they can do it the second time around once they went to school.

    Quit using your favorite campaign slogans and tell me exactly how he will go about draining the swamp. What is the plan?

    Otherwise, blah blah blah.
    Well that shows what you know about a lot of things. That you think there is not a learning curve for everyone is just disingenuous.

    Your post is more blah, blah, blah…
     

    foszoe

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    Well that shows what you know about a lot of things. That you think there is not a learning curve for everyone is just disingenuous.

    Your post is more blah, blah, blah…
    So Biden is just learning during his first term. He has an excuse. His second will be so much better! Thanks for the optimism!
     

    jamil

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    Why keep asking the same questions over and over? I have explained this so many times. There is a big learning curve to being President. I truly believe that most of them think they can play nice and become the most successful and popular President ever. Trump thought he would win his enemies over and he would be a moderate popular President.

    Sure, they throw a few red meat EO’s out early for supporters but I have yet to see a guy go in and the first day say FO I’m doing it. Trump now understands the swamp, and has a plan for trying to rein it in. That is evident by the EO’s he began late in his term, when he knew who he could trust far better than when he began.

    So let’s recap, Trump has real world experience and knowledge to take on the swamp and has already done the learning curve. Desantis must still cover the learning curve and has no national experience, no matter how good he is he must navigate the learning curve…
    Can I adopt one of Trump's infamous policies. I don't support losers.

    Just kidding. I dunno. This reads like you're making it up as you go along. And it's unnecessary really. I think this whole argument going on is silly. You have your reasons for supporting Trump. That's fine. You do you. I have my reasons for wanting an alternative. If that's DeSantis, so be it. We've all pretty much said that regardless, we're going to vote for whoever wins the primary. But you guys keep attacking people who dare to want an alternative and you'll continue to get some push back. I don't care if you vote for Trump in the primaries. You guys seem to care a whole lot if any of us vote for DeSantis, or anyone instead of Trump.

    Oh. And that real world experience isn't as helpful in the world we live in now as you think it is.
     

    Ingomike

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    Money arguments are the second leading cause of divorce, behind infidelity. High levels of debt and poor communication lead to stress and anxiety when it comes to finances. Nearly half of couples with $50,000 or more in debt say money is their top reason for arguing. I rest my case.

    Our government has been screwing us for years, and then putting us in debt...but hey, keep going and vote for more. Brilliant.
    This just runs counter to my list of urgencies. If a couple are on the verge of divorce, one spouse is abusing the kids and the family is in a state of constant turmoil, their credit card debt it a very low priority.

    If it takes borrowing to create a coalition to secure the border and gain control of the swamp I will co-sign…
    I laid out my analogy, there was no need to change it other than to make it fit your point.

    So if a spouse was abusing the kids, the highest priority is the debt? If your grandkids were being abused, your are focused on the family debt like a laser? Got it.

    The debt is a very low priority for me because if they destroy our country they can have the debt too…
     

    jamil

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    Well that shows what you know about a lot of things. That you think there is not a learning curve for everyone is just disingenuous.

    Your post is more blah, blah, blah…
    I mean, the learning curve an become outdated. The 0biden era is not the same as the Obama era, when Trump ran for President and won. He's got to figure out how to reach young people, and either convince them that he's literally not Hitler, or at least convince them not to vote. He also has to convince the reluctant Trump voters in 2016 that he is up to the task. And that's not apparent to honest observers at this point. He's coming in with the same old shtick this time. He better show some adaptation to the world we live in now.
     

    Ingomike

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    I mean, the learning curve an become outdated. The 0biden era is not the same as the Obama era, when Trump ran for President and won. He's got to figure out how to reach young people, and either convince them that he's literally not Hitler, or at least convince them not to vote. He also has to convince the reluctant Trump voters in 2016 that he is up to the task. And that's not apparent to honest observers at this point. He's coming in with the same old shtick this time. He better show some adaptation to the world we live in now.
    Relevance to draining the swamp my reply was about?
     

    jamil

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    This just runs counter to my list of urgencies. If a couple are on the verge of divorce, one spouse is abusing the kids and the family is in a state of constant turmoil, their credit card debt it a very low priority.

    If it takes borrowing to create a coalition to secure the border and gain control of the swamp I will co-sign…
    See, this is a reason the arguments you guys are making aren't winning. Debt is a HUGE part of what I care about. I think saving the country is important. Destroying the country in hopes of saving it doesn't save it.
     

    jamil

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    Relevance to draining the swamp my reply was about?
    Same thing. How do his failures in office apply to a sense of confidence in his ability to drain the swamp post-0biden? It's a different world. Different government. Does he even know what needs done? Or does he just know how to talk about it?
     
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