Anyone else considering voting Sceniak after Young showed us his true colors?

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  • chipbennett

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    What, really, is the difference between a slimy Rino of an R and a straight up despicable D in the Senate?

    It seems Young is only Republican enough (?) to keep getting the R voters away from voting in a Demoncrat.

    I completely agree with him being part of the uniparty--part of the scum that makes DC a swamp in the first place.
    The party they caucus with.

    Did you like Trump's judicial nominations, including for SCOTUS? That's the difference.
     

    TrueSeanamus

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    I sent young an email telling him I wouldn’t vote for him again based on his vote for the bipartisan bull :poop::poop: act. And would let all my family and friends know a Republican helped pass one of the biggest expansions on gun control in my life (and certainly within the last 25 years)

    He had a 9.7% lead on Bayh so I think even without our votes there are plenty of I-See-An-(R)-I-Vote-For-Them’s in indiana to keep him re-elected but maybe sending him a reminder letter by mail before the election and skipping the vote for him or even blowing it on a lolbert even if he does win he will get the message that people are mad enough to not vote for him hopefully with a corresponding 3-5% drop in votes.

    I fully understand why people think we should vote for any (R) that shows up, but when they vote for open borders, gun control, child grooming, etc, what is difference between that and walking through a mine field. Am I going to lose my foot/“salt weapons” on this step/vote or will I make it to the next step unharmed?

    Politicians need to fear, one way or another, their constituents. As the saying goes, “when the people fear the government there is tyranny but when the government fears the people there is liberty.” At MINIMUM all politicians should be scared to even touch gun control without getting ruined in the polls. Especially in a bright red state like Indiana.
     

    patience0830

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    So instead of voting for Young, you'll vote for an independent or libertarian that doesn't have a snowballs chance in h*ll of winning, just to make a point?

    I'm sure the Democrat running against Young will appreciate your gesture...
    Every journey starts with a single step. Young spends like a Democrat so what makes the difference? Rino's are not your friend. Vote libertarian and get their attention.
     

    edporch

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    I certainly don't agree with Sceniak on everything, that being said, if he is truly and honestly as staunchly Pro Second Amendment as he says then he may be our best choice.

    It's an incredibly long shot that he wins, but I cannot in good faith vote for Young.

    I won't vote for Young again, just like many years ago when Dick Lugar betrayed us on the 2nd Amendment, I never voted for him again.

    BUT I will NEVER fall for the "I'll show 'em" and vote Democrat scheme.

    I PLAN to either leave that race blank on the ballot, vote for myself :cool:, or vote for the Libertarian candidate, knowing they can't win but at least show Young the number of voters he COULD'VE gotten.

    But as I said in Primary season, Primaries are when you vote the RINO's out.
    Young ran unopposed in the Primary so we're stuck...
     

    churchmouse

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    I won't vote for Young again, just like many years ago when Dick Lugar betrayed us on the 2nd Amendment, I never voted for him again.

    BUT I will NEVER fall for the "I'll show 'em" and vote Democrat scheme.

    I PLAN to either leave that race blank on the ballot, vote for myself :cool:, or vote for the Libertarian candidate, knowing they can't win but at least show Young the number of voters he COULD'VE gotten.

    But as I said in Primary season, Primaries are when you vote the RINO's out.
    Young ran unopposed in the Primary so we're stuck...
    One in my friend Young will never see how many votes he lost or even care why if he retains the seat. These protests fall on No ears at all. They go off into that place with your odd lost socks. He does not even care.
    You know this I am sure. You are a pretty sharp cat after all.
     

    BigRed

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    I certainly don't agree with Sceniak on everything, that being said, if he is truly and honestly as staunchly Pro Second Amendment as he says then he may be our best choice.

    It's an incredibly long shot that he wins, but I cannot in good faith vote for Young.


    I most often vote for the Libertarian candidate.
     

    bwframe

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    I'll certainly vote for the libertarian, if he can accomplish two things by middle October...

    #1 - prove to us that he can contend to win.

    #2 - meet legit polling goals to show us that even a throwaway vote for the libertarian won't land us another Joe Donnelly for six years. :nono:


    This is a great chance for the libertarian to show legitimacy. They better take it now, because there might never be another.

    We should be seeing and hearing this guy in the news media like tomorrow. What weekend is this coming up? Would a legit candidate miss such an oportunity? Where is Rainwater and Rob Kendal promoting this guy?


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    edporch

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    I've voted Libertarian many times going back many years because in the past they were for following the US Constitution.

    But I backed away from them some years back when they began really pushing the OPEN BORDERS thing as official policy hard, which if that became an announced OFFICIAL U.S. policy codified into law, would really destroy this country.

    IMAGINE for example if everybody in the world knew they could just show up here and walk right in NO questions asked?
    All they'd have to do is make it here.
    We'd likely have literally a BILLION or more people flood in.
     

    scout5

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    There's an argument to be made that short term pain to obtain long a longer term gain, might be worth it. In Indiana, a fairly reliable "red" state, the only way to get rid of a disappointing republican candidate means let a democrat win for a term. The only other way to defeat the disappointment is to primary him/her...and that simply doesn't happen near enough.

    We lived through a term of Donnally. He had to stay somewhat sane if he had any hope of getting re-elected.
    I was actively involved in defeating Lugar in the primary. We did defeat him despite many democrats voting in the republican primary trying to save him. We had a good candidate but the RNC wasn't pleased and did not give him the support he needed because he wasn't going to be their lap dog. The result was we got Donally who could have been easily defeated had the RNC wanted it, they didn't. The end result is Young ended up withe seat 6 years later and he is a good RNC lap dog helping to grow big government along with the DNC.

    The RNC chooses those they think can vote with the dems and still have a good chance of being re-elected. Young makes that cut. In that way they help to grow government control while claiming they don't.

    Irony for me is we help Young win the primary and general election for his first term in the House of Representatives. We wanted to defeat Hill and thought young blood would help, That has come back to bite us, the lying POS.
     

    KLB

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    I was actively involved in defeating Lugar in the primary. We did defeat him despite many democrats voting in the republican primary trying to save him. We had a good candidate but the RNC wasn't pleased and did not give him the support he needed because he wasn't going to be their lap dog. The result was we got Donally who could have been easily defeated had the RNC wanted it, they didn't. The end result is Young ended up withe seat 6 years later and he is a good RNC lap dog helping to grow big government along with the DNC.

    The RNC chooses those they think can vote with the dems and still have a good chance of being re-elected. Young makes that cut. In that way they help to grow government control while claiming they don't.

    Irony for me is we help Young win the primary and general election for his first term in the House of Representatives. We wanted to defeat Hill and thought young blood would help, That has come back to bite us, the lying POS.
    Using your logic, I guess we can expect the RNC to try to defeat Braun in the next primary.

    Sadly, Murdoch walked headlong into the trap set for him. I don't see where the RNC was to blame for his loss.
     

    Leo

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    The 1st time I was old enough to vote for a President was in 1976. The wrong man won. Ever since then, I have seldom voted to a good man I could really get behind. The few I did were mostly local level politicians. ALL of the rest of my voting has been to squeeze my nose like someone ran over a skunk, and vote for the man that stunk less.

    I have thought a few Democrats had some sound views, but the day they took office, they lost their minds and voted whatever Ted Kennedy, Tip Oneal, Tom Foley or nancy pelosi and chuckie Schumer wanted. I don't believe the "moderate" speaking democrats any more. Voting has become like signing up for a beating to avoid bankruptcy.
     

    Denny347

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    Just an observation from an voter who has no party affiliation/ties. We wonder how our country has gotten where it is. We have serious issues with how a particular politician votes on KEY issues. Yet since he is a R, he automatically gets the votes since he is not a D. What do you think politicians think after getting voter support? They will continue down the path the voters hate and likely even get worse. All because we only vote political party, PERIOD. It matters little how anti-freedom a R is, as long as they stay R, they will get the votes. Why would they listen to any of you? Why would they care about your emails? They know they will get your votes because they are not a D.
     

    bwframe

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    Just an observation from an voter who has no party affiliation/ties. We wonder how our country has gotten where it is. We have serious issues with how a particular politician votes on KEY issues. Yet since he is a R, he automatically gets the votes since he is not a D. What do you think politicians think after getting voter support? They will continue down the path the voters hate and likely even get worse. All because we only vote political party, PERIOD. It matters little how anti-freedom a R is, as long as they stay R, they will get the votes. Why would they listen to any of you? Why would they care about your emails? They know they will get your votes because they are not a D.

    We know that republican's are way more apt to fall from the grace of their voters than the democrats. Democrats who have gun control published in their party platform. :xmad:

    Democratic Party on Gun Control

    Party Platform


    Kinda like the makeup of the Supreme Court isn't it? When was the last time that a liberal SCOTUS judge voted with the conservatives?

    Yet just last week... :dunno:


    Even if republicans are sometimes a crap shoot, gun owners know for sure what democrats are to the Second Amendment >>>>>> The enemy.


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    scout5

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    Using your logic, I guess we can expect the RNC to try to defeat Braun in the next primary.

    Sadly, Murdoch walked headlong into the trap set for him. I don't see where the RNC was to blame for his loss.
    The media greatly misrepresented what he said. The RNC spent zero dollars and zero effort to counter it. They had the resources, staff and know how, they just wouldn't.

    The RNC did other things that year to marginalize our efforts. It also happened on our county and state levels. Yes the republican power brokers involved are directly responsible for his loss.

    I wouldn't vote for my own mother if she ran as a democrat, but I am livid at the republican's games of deception, growing big government control, and furthering the decline of individual rights. They allow just enough support to push the agenda while trying to maintain plausible deniability. They are playing us.
     

    scout5

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    Using your logic, I guess we can expect the RNC to try to defeat Braun in the next primary.

    I didn't address this remark in my previous post. It is not representative of what I posted, rather simply how you chose to view it.
     

    scout5

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    To be clear. I will not be voting for Todd Young, period. I literally turned my back on him and walk away the last time I seen him. He was spewing BS in an attempt to justify the unjustifiable. He is a tool of big government power brokers and doesn't give a squat about our individual rights.
     

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