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  • Jaybird1980

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    That’s not unusual, the interconnects are there for a reason. What is unusual is multiple regions suffering a shortage at the same time.

    I work in the industry, from what I’ve seen the plans for rolling blackout must be on the transmission level, so substation breakers will be flipped to simply shut down distribution lines.

    Problem becomes cold load pickup, the longer you leave a line de energized the more load you can expect to pickup. This is why leaving lines de energized for more than an hour or so becomes problematic.
    It is unusual. The interconnects are there for stability, restart and controlling/managing failures and outages. Not so that they can run the ragged edge. This is a new trend that has been getting worse over the last 3-5 years.
     

    Ark

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    Maybe it's partially on the other end and there's less electricity.

    I never thought I would see this in America, it reminds me of some of the third world places I worked in the past. Small factories working in buildings that were damaged or burned using a lot of hand labor in place of machines. Scheduling production around power black outs.
    Welcome to the "green revolution".
     

    rooster

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    It is unusual. The interconnects are there for stability, restart and controlling/managing failures and outages. Not so that they can run the ragged edge. This is a new trend that has been getting worse over the last 3-5 years.
    To add to this I’ve read that many utilities are asking for waivers for generation capacity. Meaning that they are asking to not be penalized for these rolling blackouts that are a direct result of shutting down coal plants.

    It’s insane.
     

    Ingomike

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    To add to this I’ve read that many utilities are asking for waivers for generation capacity. Meaning that they are asking to not be penalized for these rolling blackouts that are a direct result of shutting down coal plants.

    It’s insane.
    Beyond insane, insanity is random, this is organized. Many of us have been warning of this for a few years, but it the sheeple and dumbmasses living in their normalcy bias never believed it would affect their lives.

    This is the way it works. Leftists pass a bill that x will be mandated in 2035 and we will take steps to get there. The sheeple like this because it requires nothing now, it can all be put off while they feel good about doing something. Then the process begins and they make excuses and blame others while the dumbmasses tighten their blinders because if they don’t see it, it cannot hurt them…
     

    xwing

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    This is terrible, and should never happen in America. It's because Biden and the other leftists do everything for the "green" eco-nuts and ignore reality. You should never "turn off" a coal plant unless you already have in place an equivalent alternative. But they'd rather score points with the greenies, even if it means devolving to 3rd world status where electricity 24/7 is no longer taken for granted. :wallbash:

    On the plus side, I guess I may get some use out of my whole-house generator. On the minus side, it costs more than $200 / day to run at capacity. :(
     

    bobzilla

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    You turn off the electricity in my house while I'm at work and the dogs are inside and they overheat I will rain holy hell on someones ****ing head. I pay you to deliver a ****ing service and rely on that service for my family's well being (even if they are fur babies). Don't **** with my "kids" mother ****ers. I will **** some **** up.

    EDIT: Their recommended solution is to "find ways to save energy." We signed up 2 years ago for their home assessment on how to lower our bill and use less electricity. After half an hour the assessor looks at me and said : "You've done more than even we listed. I can't offer you anything but some free lightbulbs and power strips if you'd like"

    We already added insulation to the ceiling (8" additional), replaced the two older sliding doors with good quality units, upgraded out HVAC, added insulated siding, do not run lights on in the house, we have solar shades in hte windows PLUS thick black out curtains and plastic rolled down in the winter as well. We shut off rooms that we aren't using. We couldn't use less if we tried.
     
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    DoggyDaddy

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    You turn off the electricity in my house while I'm at work and the dogs are inside and they overheat I will rain holy hell on someones ****ing head. I pay you to deliver a ****ing service and rely on that service for my family's well being (even if they are fur babies). Don't **** with my "kids" mother ****ers. I will **** some **** up.
    I get what you're saying, but I think these rolling blackouts typically only last an hour or so, so I don't think your dogs would be in any danger that quickly unless you live in an uninsulated greenhouse...
     

    trainengineer01

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    Cool website, I had no idea this info was available….thank you much……we haven’t experienced any rolling or other black or brown outs in northwest indiana, but we’ll see as the summer goes on….


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    bobzilla

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    I get what you're saying, but I think these rolling blackouts typically only last an hour or so, so I don't think your dogs would be in any danger that quickly unless you live in an uninsulated greenhouse...
    It's the "longer amounts of time" that bothers me. The sun beats down on the house and with everything sealed up the way it is it gets stuffy fast. Plus they are both still in crate training so they don't have access to water in their crates (because they like to dump it and play in it)

    EDIT: there is very little that will get me properly riled up but **** with my dogs or wife and that's an instant on for me.
     

    Jaybird1980

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    I get what you're saying, but I think these rolling blackouts typically only last an hour or so, so I don't think your dogs would be in any danger that quickly unless you live in an uninsulated greenhouse...
    No, but there are people at home with medical equipment that it will affect. Oxygen machines and such.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    It's the "longer amounts of time" that bothers me. The sun beats down on the house and with everything sealed up the way it is it gets stuffy fast. Plus they are both still in crate training so they don't have access to water in their crates (because they like to dump it and play in it)

    EDIT: there is very little that will get me properly riled up but **** with my dogs or wife and that's an instant on for me.
    Understood and I feel the same way!
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    jkaetz

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    This is terrible, and should never happen in America. It's because Biden and the other leftists do everything for the "green" eco-nuts and ignore reality. You should never "turn off" a coal plant unless you already have in place an equivalent alternative. But they'd rather score points with the greenies, even if it means devolving to 3rd world status where electricity 24/7 is no longer taken for granted. :wallbash:

    On the plus side, I guess I may get some use out of my whole-house generator. On the minus side, it costs more than $200 / day to run at capacity. :(
    Agreed. Two years ago I would have never considered a standby generator but after the Texas failure and this non-sense of electricity shortages I'm considering it.

    EDIT: Their recommended solution is to "find ways to save energy." We signed up 2 years ago for their home assessment on how to lower our bill and use less electricity. After half an hour the assessor looks at me and said : "You've done more than even we listed. I can't offer you anything but some free lightbulbs and power strips if you'd like"

    We already added insulation to the ceiling (8" additional), replaced the two older sliding doors with good quality units, upgraded out HVAC, added insulated siding, do not run lights on in the house, we have solar shades in hte windows PLUS thick black out curtains and plastic rolled down in the winter as well. We shut off rooms that we aren't using. We couldn't use less if we tried.
    Yep, no point in being energy efficient if they're going to turn off your power anyway.
     

    jwamplerusa

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    Maybe it's partially on the other end and there's less electricity.

    I never thought I would see this in America, it reminds me of some of the third world places I worked in the past. Small factories working in buildings that were damaged or burned using a lot of hand labor in place of machines. Scheduling production around power black outs.
    This is what happens whenever you elect subversive Communists (AKA Democrats) who desire to manage the economy through State control. The only difference between what Stalin and Mao did versus our current swamp is the names of the directorates.

    When you have the state using eco-terrorism to curtail energy production you cripple your own economy to benefit your adversaries.

    Below is kind of ringing in my ears.

    "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed, - That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government..."
     
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