Uvalde Texas Killing

[drillsgt]

Do you not have SRO’s not being sarcastic but asking.

Even having SRO's is hit and miss, often there may be one that has to split time between schools etc., or in the case of the FL shooting they just hide outside afraid to go in.

 

[Ingomike]

That being said, it is one of my peeves when someone infers that without god or religion morals collapse and only through god can they be rebuilt.

Yes, because mankind has such a great track record of moral living it is safe to believe that humans can be moral on their own…

 

[armalitesheepdog]

I don't care what anyone's religion is as long as they don't try to push it on me. To each his own and it doesn't affect me. That being said, it is one of my peeves when someone infers that without god or religion morals collapse and only through god can they be rebuilt. It's no different than telling everyone you believe that no one can be a moral person without the threat of eternal damnation, which is a bunch of horse ****.

Anyway, I'd like to be done with the religious aspect of this topic which is about some ******* that murdered a bunch of kids for no apparent reason.

One of my peeves is when a atheist lectures me on God.....just sayin

 

[Denny347]

I've had this conversation with my sister who teaches in a high school. She is mortified at the idea of teachers being allowed to carry in school. I asked her why and her rationale was that she didn't think she could ever bring herself to shoot a student. Even when I explained that might mean said student would be free to continue killing other students in the classroom with no resistance. Her answer didn't change.

I asked what she would do if it ever happened. All she could muster was a weak, "I'd call the police."

She essentially said she's willing to watch innocent kids die so she wouldn't have to commit an act of violence to stop it. How do you break through to someone with this mindset?

She knows I carry and train regularly. I asked if she'd be OK with me or someone like me carrying in a school if I were a teacher. She still said, "no. Guns don't belong in school."

No **** Sherlock. So what's the plan to stop someone that brings one in with an intent to kill?

She is FAR from alone in this mindset. I've seen trained officers fail to pull the trigger when they should have. I'm sure those in the military who have gone to war can say the same thing about many of their fellow soldiers. Lots of practiced gun owners could NEVER take a life to save theirs or someone they love. People are quite cavalier here about taking a life. Thankfully, having to protect yourself in this manner is infinitesimally rare. I love teachers. My kids had some fantastic ones over the years, truly exceptional. But they would never be able to meet a killer on their terms. It is just how it is.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Alright. Which one of you dirty so n so's put the burr under HIS saddle blanket?

I always have a burr under my blanket.

 

[BigRed]

They are not mature, not mentally stable, and more likely should be prohibited possessors.

Just curious.....do you let them educate your children?

 

[tackdriver]

Or maybe lock the doors on the school (at least from coming from the outside)...

Haven't read much on this particular one, but sure seems like keeping bad guy out of known gun free zone would keep some of this from happening at least in schools.

As a parent, I couldn't just walk into my kids school. How the f*** did this a**hat @#%^* just run in and start shooting!!!?

I don't have any problem with locked doors (maybe one into office, then buzzed into elswhere?). No problem with armed SRO's. No problem with dragging the shooters corps around town behind a truck.

 

[wcd]

I feel that statement is uncalled for.

You and others may not believe in God or the teachings of Jesus but others do. What does it matter to you if one wished to express their values and impact they believe God has on our lives? What reason would one have to make an insulting statement against those who do believe?

Does it make you feel better?

This is a very sad story about children being killed and people believing, as I do, that there has been a moral downfall since many have taken God out of the equation.

The families of many of those children are, right now, reaching out to, praying to the only hope they feel they have right now. The only peace they may have is from praying to God, and here you are ripping that only hope out of their hearts.

You should be ashamed.

Could not have said it better myself

 

[drillsgt]

This is live now and hasn't started yet :

Well, that was worthless.

 

[KG1]

There are, and always will be, vile creatures walking amongst us. That's exactly why I will never relinquish my right to defend myself.

It has always baffled me how these events become posters and screaming points for the anti-self-defense crowd. Does anyone really believe there is a magic legislation pen that can make the bad people go away? These are exactly the reasons people should take personal responsibility for their safety...not give up the means to do it!!!

Yep. The 2nd Amendment does not give anyone the right to pick up arms and kill innocents. To the contrary it is a right to keep and bear arms to defend oneself and others from those who wish to kill innocents.

 

[Denny347]

Ungodly freaks

Not sure what a "freak" is.

 

[qwerty]

Even having SRO's is hit and miss, often there may be one that has to split time between schools etc., or in the case of the FL shooting they just hide outside afraid to go in.

After that situation, Florida switched to the school guardian program which seems more successful. Generally retired military or police employed by the schools for the single purpose to secure the buildings and eliminate threats. One assigned to each school with direct supervision. They receive training through the Sheriffs Office but are employed by the school district. I know a few guys that retired to FL to enlist in that program.

It would be worth a try here if the Governor was not busy rubbing elbows and who knows what else with the globalist.

 

[tackdriver]

This won't stop until leadership deems it a priority to lock doors and put ARMED officers inside the schools. I don't want to hear any more BS about it would cost too much, that's just putting a price on these children's heads. I've seen several communities implement such measures, so it can be done.
Today, and everyday forward, hold the powers to be, whether a mayor, town council or whatever, directly responsible for providing children's safety in schools.
I'm not blaming those in charge for such a monstrous acts, just pointing out they're lack of doing jack **** sure makes it possible.
Prayers for all.

I agree.

However, the powers that be won't stop criminals flooding across the border; won't hold violent offenders without bail; won't make sentences about punishment; won't let good kids stand up to bullies; won't ....

Why would they take steps to stop the same vile creatures from shooting up the school?

I really think they just don't care that much. Besides, this is great for their ratings.

 

[Denny347]

This is a very sad story about children being killed and people believing, as I do, that there has been a moral downfall since many have taken God out of the equation.

Correlation does not equal causation.

 

[actaeon277]

The idiots that yell about GUNS GUNS GUNS...

Ask them what they think would happen, if the same person goes into a classroom with a KNIFE.
Do they think things would go different?

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Correlation does not equal causation.

It does not necessarily equal causation.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Wonder how many indiana schools still have those metal detectors the state funded a few years ago?

 

[armalitesheepdog]

Not sure what a "freak" is.

verb

1. 1.
   INFORMAL
   behave or cause to behave in a wild and irrational way, typically because of the effects of extreme emotion, mental illness, or drugs.
   "I could have freaked out and started smashing the place up"

 

[PapaScout]

Well, that was worthless.

Agreed.

 

[Firehawk]

Heartbreaking… I can’t imagine being one of those parents waiting to see their kid and they never come out.