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    KellyinAvon

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    Another reason to home school, and Another reason teachers should be trained and armed. A resource officer cannot be everywhere.

    Thankfully there were brave officers who rushed in put themselves on the line and no doubt saved many other children.
    A couple years ago Coach testified in support of a bill authored by Jim Lucas that did just that. I was there and testified, Guy Relford was there and testified, Coach came and spoke from the heart.

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    Your wife must be one of the 5% or so teachers that identify as conservative. There are brave teachers that would die for their kids. However, that is very different than purchasing a handgun, training with it, then having the will to take a person's life with it when pressed. Teachers like your wife are rare in that field. Almost unicorn status.
    I would guess geography may play a huge part. There are quite a few in her building that would be running to their vehicle and I do not mean to leave. My wife’s co teacher is a MJ police officer as well. So I believe there are more out there than what you may think.
     

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    Your wife must be one of the 5% or so teachers that identify as conservative. There are brave teachers that would die for their kids. However, that is very different than purchasing a handgun, training with it, then having the will to take a person's life with it when pressed. Teachers like your wife are rare in that field. Almost unicorn status.
    I've had this conversation with my sister who teaches in a high school. She is mortified at the idea of teachers being allowed to carry in school. I asked her why and her rationale was that she didn't think she could ever bring herself to shoot a student. Even when I explained that might mean said student would be free to continue killing other students in the classroom with no resistance. Her answer didn't change.

    I asked what she would do if it ever happened. All she could muster was a weak, "I'd call the police."

    She essentially said she's willing to watch innocent kids die so she wouldn't have to commit an act of violence to stop it. How do you break through to someone with this mindset?

    She knows I carry and train regularly. I asked if she'd be OK with me or someone like me carrying in a school if I were a teacher. She still said, "no. Guns don't belong in school."

    No **** Sherlock. So what's the plan to stop someone that brings one in with an intent to kill?
     

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    Prayers for the families of those killed, as well as to the responding officers and other first responders having to deal with the aftermath. Can't imagine what that would be like. I'm sure many of them are parents as well. :(
    One more reason I'm not wired to be in LE. I don't think I could do that part of the job, and truly do appreciate those that can. Bless the indeed.
     

    KellyinAvon

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    Yesterday made 40 years since I graduated from high school. 23 May 1982, long before a solution in search of a problem called the Gun Free School Zones Act of 1990 was signed into law.

    The parking lots had pickups, the pickups had gun racks, the gun racks had guns. Nobody ever got shot.
     

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    I've had this conversation with my sister who teaches in a high school. She is mortified at the idea of teachers being allowed to carry in school. I asked her why and her rationale was that she didn't think she could ever bring herself to shoot a student. Even when I explained that might mean said student would be free to continue killing other students in the classroom with no resistance. Her answer didn't change.

    I asked what she would do if it ever happened. All she could muster was a weak, "I'd call the police."

    She essentially said she's willing to watch innocent kids die so she wouldn't have to commit an act of violence to stop it. How do you break through to someone with this mindset?

    She knows I carry and train regularly. I asked if she'd be OK with me or someone like me carrying in a school if I were a teacher. She still said, "no. Guns don't belong in school."

    No **** Sherlock. So what's the plan to stop someone that brings one in with an intent to kill?
    It’s a sad reality that some will never overcome this mindset, but also probably a good thing that they elect not to carrry.

    she is only partially correct guns do not belong in schools in the hands of criminals. Sad how some would abdicate yelling loudly in the face of evil or urinating on them or some other idiotic liberal nonsense. But unfortunately there are those out there That would idly stand by in disbelief and do nothing but hope for a less than catastrophic outcome.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    It’s time for the federal government to fund grants for every school district in the nation to provide an armed trained officer in our schools. There are many retired police and military personnel that would be a good fit for this. Not resource officers but strictly armed trained personnel.
    How about using our property taxes for that instead of fancy stadiums, swimming pools, etc.? You know that when you say "the federal government to fund", you're saying YOU and WE should fund, right?
     

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    They always blame the gun and not the user bad people will find a way a firearm, a ied or fire or a automobile
    And why dont they blame the auto or the alcohol for car attacks or drunk driving? Where are the calls for large and powerful cars and trucks? Or prohibition part II? Its all the same thing.
     

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    One more reason I'm not wired to be in LE. I don't think I could do that part of the job, and truly do appreciate those that can. Bless the indeed.
    I believe you are wise in understanding your limitations. But being a protector is also an honor and a privilege. There are many drawbacks one of the being you get to see humanity at their worse sometimes in their darkest hours, which is often difficult to put aside at the end of the day.
     
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