My, what nice guys (killed over 20 of neighbor’s cats)

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  • DoggyDaddy

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    Cursory research will show that feral cats (and outdoor "pets") kill huge amounts of native wildlife yearly. It is always open season on outdoor cats. The bleeding hearts that TNR are just allowing more death and destruction during the feral cats' lifetimes (which are usually hard, brutal and short).

    We have a strictly indoor cat that doesn't have a collar or vet visits - she NEVER goes outside, and freezes in fright if she makes it onto the porch. She is a PET.
    We have one cat. She wears a harness and tag, gets vaccinated yearly and is microchipped. She goes out, but stays in our yard. She doesn't stay out long, just goes out like our dog does. The only things I've seen her kill are mice, voles and chipmunks.
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    I've got a crazy cat lady or two in my hood. Those cats are feral, they may call them pets but it doesn't mean they are. And I've lived around a person that had "pet" feral dogs. They didn't last long, and it wasn't by me. Neighbors dog gets loose? If they'll come, I'll grab them and let their owners or animal control know. The dogs I'm talking about, yeah no.
     

    two70

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    We have one cat. She wears a harness and tag, gets vaccinated yearly and is microchipped. She goes out, but stays in our yard. She doesn't stay out long, just goes out like our dog does. The only things I've seen her kill are mice, voles and chipmunks.
    It sounds like you are a good responsible cat owner, as everyone should be. It sounds like the woman in this case was the opposite, if she could even be considered a cat owner. More like a cat attractor.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    It sounds like you are a good responsible cat owner, as everyone should be. It sounds like the woman in this case was the opposite, if she could even be considered a cat owner. More like a cat attractor.
    When I lived over near CM, (before I had a cat) we had a crazy cat lady that fed all the strays in the area, and they also bred. We had a dog that we took in as a stray (best dog I ever had). She killed a couple of kittens that got into our fenced in yard and all of a sudden we were the neighborhood pariahs. I imagine that before we took her in, she killed a lot of small animals just to survive. She was quick. Saw her grab a bird out of midair once.
     

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    When I lived over near CM, (before I had a cat) we had a crazy cat lady that fed all the strays in the area, and they also bred. We had a dog that we took in as a stray (best dog I ever had). She killed a couple of kittens that got into our fenced in yard and all of a sudden we were the neighborhood pariahs. I imagine that before we took her in, she killed a lot of small animals just to survive. She was quick. Saw her grab a bird out of midair once.
    IMO, the crazy cat ladies in both cases are the ones responsible for the death of the cats. Unfortunately, being a crazy cat lady seems to be yet another protected class of mental illness today.
     

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    IMO, the crazy cat ladies in both cases are the ones responsible for the death of the cats. Unfortunately, being a crazy cat lady seems to be yet another protected class of mental illness today.
    I was never a cat person until I met DoggyMama (wasn't with her when I lived by CM). The one we have now is very much a Daddy's girl. :): When I was still going in to the office, she would be waiting by the door when I got home from work. She's practically glued to my leg when I get up in the morning now, at least until she decides to go back to bed. Still follows me around throughout the day though and puts her front paws up on my leg (doesn't claw me) for petting. She's more like a dog than some dogs I've had.
     

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    We have one cat. She wears a harness and tag, gets vaccinated yearly and is microchipped. She goes out, but stays in our yard. She doesn't stay out long, just goes out like our dog does. The only things I've seen her kill are mice, voles and chipmunks.
    Well, voles, chipmunks and some mice are also native animals, and have a place in the ecosystem, including as food for snakes, hawks, owls and foxes. I don't intend to go overboard defending them, but there are consequences. Cats, on the other hand (unless they are bobcats), do not have a place in our native ecosystems, which have not evolved to include a well-armed, fast, agile viscous animal that kills even when it is not hungry. That could be said to apply to some owls and weasels also, but they are native, and there are a lot fewer of them than cats.
     

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    I was never a cat person until I met DoggyMama (wasn't with her when I lived by CM). The one we have now is very much a Daddy's girl. :): When I was still going in to the office, she would be waiting by the door when I got home from work. She's practically glued to my leg when I get up in the morning now, at least until she decides to go back to bed. Still follows me around throughout the day though and puts her front paws up on my leg (doesn't claw me) for petting. She's more like a dog than some dogs I've had.
    Same. Cats were always "nasty, spiteful, vindictive, ungrateful household parasites," but now that we have one (courtesy of our youngest), she mainly wants to paly with and be petted by me. They seem to know who doesn't like them and gravitate that direction.
     

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    Well, voles, chipmunks and some mice are also native animals, and have a place in the ecosystem, including as food for snakes, hawks, owls and foxes. I don't intend to go overboard defending them, but there are consequences. Cats, on the other hand (unless they are bobcats), do not have a place in our native ecosystems, which have not evolved to include a well-armed, fast, agile viscous animal that kills even when it is not hungry. That could be said to apply to some owls and weasels also, but they are native, and there are a lot fewer of them than cats.
    I know what you're saying. But chipmunks, voles and mice can also do a lot of damage to the yard and to buildings. If she weren't killing them (and she doesn't nearly as much as she's gotten older), it would just be more for me to kill.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    Same. Cats were always "nasty, spiteful, vindictive, ungrateful household parasites," but now that we have one (courtesy of our youngest), she mainly wants to paly with and be petted by me. They seem to know who doesn't like them and gravitate that direction.
    You know, in some ancient cultures cats were revered as gods. The cats have never forgotten this. :):
     

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    I've got a crazy cat lady or two in my hood. Those cats are feral, they may call them pets but it doesn't mean they are. And I've lived around a person that had "pet" feral dogs. They didn't last long, and it wasn't by me. Neighbors dog gets loose? If they'll come, I'll grab them and let their owners or animal control know. The dogs I'm talking about, yeah no.
    I don't have a crazy cat lady, but I have 6-8 stray cats that are always causing issues around here.
    I damn well know I'm not putting up with 20+, and we have no Animal Control around here.
    I have taken a few to the Humane Society and they wanted me to pay them to take them. :lmfao:
     

    KLB

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    Well, voles, chipmunks and some mice are also native animals, and have a place in the ecosystem, including as food for snakes, hawks, owls and foxes. I don't intend to go overboard defending them, but there are consequences. Cats, on the other hand (unless they are bobcats), do not have a place in our native ecosystems, which have not evolved to include a well-armed, fast, agile viscous animal that kills even when it is not hungry. That could be said to apply to some owls and weasels also, but they are native, and there are a lot fewer of them than cats.
    All of the predators you list are present in much smaller numbers now, especially in more developed areas. Plus you forgot Coyotes. :p

    Those predators you list will also make a meal out of a cat if the occasion arises.
     

    Timjoebillybob

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    I don't have a crazy cat lady, but I have 6-8 stray cats that are always causing issues around here.
    I damn well know I'm not putting up with 20+, and we have no Animal Control around here.
    I have taken a few to the Humane Society and they wanted me to pay them to take them. :lmfao:
    I've driven down the street by my house and saw 30+ cats in less than a block. One moved, the other was taken in for mental issues(go figure) still have at least one that I know of 3-4 doors down the alley.

    We have animal control, but they stopped taking cats for a while. Vet and shelter were both full. I think they've started again. When it was real bad I was talking to the animal control officer, they picked up 20ish strays in one week. That was within a block of my house. I'd guarantee the fate of them was similar to the ones in this article.
     
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