Afghanistan

[Hatin Since 87]

Hopefully everyone here knows who Robert O’Neil is.

 

[buckwacker]

I said this a couple weeks ago and took some flak for it. Not so sure I wasn't right.

 

[BigRed]

I said this a couple weeks ago and took some flak for it. Not so sure I wasn't right.

Just another **** hole country in that **** hole region.

You can throw Turkey in the same **** hole.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Just another **** hole country in that **** hole region.

You can throw Turkey in the same **** hole.

At the risk of sounding racist, I'd expand that to any Muslim majority country. They dont value freedom for ALL, which is a requirement for freedoms like ours to function. If you dont feel that EVERYONE is equal (and not property like women and girls) and deserves freedom, you wont understand and wont truly want freedom for ALL. Its just how it is. That is how their religion shapes their views.

Yes, we have some Muslims here and dont have problems. Many of them are very liberal and for the most part treat their women as more or less equals. Yes, still values that would make Gloria Steinem freak out, but still VERY tame by current overseas standards. And the few here that share the radical (to us) homeland values are small enough of a minority here that they cannot affect the rest of the country.

But look at London. Sections of the city that are Muslim majority and treated as off limits to native Brits/govt law enforcement "because they have different beliefs and so we live and let live." And they defer most peacekeeping to religious leaders. So you have women forced to wear certain religious clothing, not have free reign to travel solo, etc. But the govt turns a blind eye so long as nobody reports actual beatings.

Can you imagine if a white guy in a white, Catholic majority neighborhood was caught forcing his wife to not leave the house without him, or go anywhere she wanted? He'd get locked up for spousal abuse. Not true for those other groups.

 

[BigRed]

At the risk of sounding racist, I'd expand that to any Muslim majority country. They dont value freedom for ALL, which is a requirement for freedoms like ours to function. If you dont feel that EVERYONE is equal (and not property like women and girls) and deserves freedom, you wont understand and wont truly want freedom for ALL. Its just how it is. That is how their religion shapes their views.

Yes, we have some Muslims here and dont have problems. Many of them are very liberal and for the most part treat their women as more or less equals. Yes, still values that would make Gloria Steinem freak out, but still VERY tame by current overseas standards. And the few here that share the radical (to us) homeland values are small enough of a minority here that they cannot affect the rest of the country.

But look at London. Sections of the city that are Muslim majority and treated as off limits to native Brits/govt law enforcement "because they have different beliefs and so we live and let live." And they defer most peacekeeping to religious leaders. So you have women forced to wear certain religious clothing, not have free reign to travel solo, etc. But the govt turns a blind eye so long as nobody reports actual beatings.

Can you imagine if a white guy in a white, Catholic majority neighborhood was caught forcing his wife to not leave the house without him, or go anywhere she wanted? He'd get locked up for spousal abuse. Not true for those other groups.

I will concur....and not at all racist given "muslim" is not a race.

 

[buckwacker]

Just another **** hole country in that **** hole region.

You can throw Turkey in the same **** hole.

I probably should have been clearer about what specifically I was referring to since Lara covered several topics. I said several days ago that everything about the exit from Afghanistan appeared designed to prop up, aide and abett the Taliban. There were too many things that went the same direction for it to be blamed on coincidence or incompetence.

 

[BigRed]

I probably should have been clearer about what specifically I was referring to since Lara covered several topics. I said several days ago that everything about the exit from Afghanistan appeared designed to prop up, aide and abett the Taliban. There were too many things that went the same direction for it to be blamed on coincidence or incompetence.

Concur.

The central state is not serious about destroying these goat humpers....never has been.

 

[Cameramonkey]

I will concur....and not at all racist given "muslim" is not a race.

That wont stop liberal dbags from claiming it is.

 

[jsx1043]

 

[BigRed]

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Bread and circuses.

 

[two70]

We lack not only the political will, but the moral high ground.

But I still prefer a JSOC team on the ground vs a Hellfire.

Taking out the idiots clamoring for the "moral high ground" is likely a good first step to successfully conducting a war now days.

 

[BigRed]

Nice trigger control by this goat humper.

 

[rooster]

I started reading a book called “the Afghanistan papers” that was written to put a broad scope picture together of what went wrong using foia docs and other sources.

highly recommend it. Apparently everyone knew from the start it was a sh** show.

 

[NKBJ]

Just thinking out loud, according to the plans put together almost a century and a half ago the Moslem east versus Christian west war is far from over. Are those plans still operative or been derailed or significantly revised? I don't know. But I do know that we've been living it for quite a while so I see no reason to believe we won't continue to. Any how, we'll soon be just about at the point when the nihilists are turned loose to do their thing so there's fun yet to come.

 

[BugI02]

Are those plans still operative or been derailed or significantly revised?

Can you say Har Megiddo?

 

[NKBJ]

Heh, I wonder how close we really are!

 

[BugI02]

Heh, I wonder how close we really are!

Just remember, Matthew 24:36 is a caution to always be prepared as well as not jump the gun or listen to those who claim to know

 

[NKBJ]

I was dwelling on Meggido, not thinking about from that angle.
And thinking about that angle, we could be getting pretty close* or not. Like most everyone who has studied the matter I've come up with what is concluded to be a window, in my case a window of approximately forty years, that we'll be entering into within a decade. At least that's what I think until I learn more that makes me change my mind.

* My life time (close).

 

[rhamersley]

Taliban Celebrates 9/11 With Patriotic Flyover Of U.S. Black Hawks

KABUL—According to reports coming out of Afghanistan, the Taliban celebrated its high holy day of 9/11 over the weekend with a patriotic flyover consisting of a full formation of Black Hawk helicopters recently acquired from the United States government.

babylonbee.com

 

[buckwacker]

Obama CIA Director Says Biden Afghanistan Calamity Has “Absolutely Inspired Jihadists All Over The World”

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