To mask or not to mask....That is the question. Part II

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  • Hatin Since 87

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    It's a mask & a shot,
    No one is asking you to rush a machine gun nest on D-Day or run into the World Trade Center to save victims.

    Grow a pair and get the shot...
    *IF* idiots would have quarantined, mask up and disinfected, we would have been over this in 6 months
    First. Saying “it’s a mask and a shot, no one is asking you to rush a machine gun nest” is about the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. Can we apply that to everything? “Just get the microchip, it isn’t like we’re asking you to rush a machine gun nest” or “just let them search your house, it isn’t like we’re asking you to rush a machine gun nest”. Sound ****ing stupid? Ya, that’s because it is.

    2nd. Grow a pair and get the shot?

    No.

    3rd *IF* idiots didn’t quarantine, didn’t mask up, and didn’t disinfect we’d have heard immunity and be over this already. But the idiots blindly follow whatever their overlords tell them to, 2 weeks to flatten the curve, get the vaccine, oops, vaccine isn’t working keep wearing a mask.


    So, as to your entire wishlist. No.
     

    MCgrease08

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    Last week, D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser announced that everyone would have to wear a face mask indoors regardless of vaccination status. Bowser cited a rise in COVID-19 cases and the delta variant as the reason behind the new mandate.

    What was odd at the time, however, was that the new mandate didn’t go into effect immediately. If the delta variant was so dangerous, why wait? The new mandate was announced Thursday but wouldn’t go into effect until Saturday. Why wait two days for something allegedly so important?
     

    Hatin Since 87

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    idkfa

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    ...
    But they didn't contrary to literally what EVERY MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL IN THE WORLD told them...
    ...
    That's a lot of hubris and bravado for someone who -- may I assume -- does not hold a relevant graduate degree.

    Well, I happen to hold a PhD in Pharmaceutical Sciences, I engaged in all phases of the basic research, including preclinical studies, I have cancer therapeutics patents to my name, I am a data scientist, and I have worked for several years with the FDA in particular over what actually constitutes an "approved drug."

    And I happen to have an informed opinion that can be briefly summarized as:
    1) Lockdowns did only harm.
    2) Cloth, surgical, and even N95 masks are entirely useless in the medical setting.
    3) Experimental gene therapy currently called "vaccines" is
    - Somewhat (about 50%) effective in precluding COVID as defined by the FDA (positive PCR test and one symptom),
    - Not effective in reducing mortality (as evidenced by the recent 6 month Pfizer follow-up study),
    - Very, very dangerous.
    4) "Vaccine" rollout defies every tenet of the medical ethics paradigm conceived in the wake of the Nazi war crimes as the Nuremberg Code. It is despicable.

    So here's literally not every medical professional.
    But there are many, many more. I assume you haven't heard of The Great Barrington Declaration.
    Or the America’s Frontline Doctors.
     

    blues bondsman

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    You will comply, You must comply !
    Comply or face the wrath of your leaders !!

    There are at least three businesses in my tow that will NEVER receive a visit from our family nor a penny of our money, One told us they were calling the police if we didn't put on a mask (ace hardware).
    Yep to me, my wife and daughter.
    I asked them to please call and offered them the phone # LOL
    Notice they never asked us to leave (not trespassing).
    By the way the national mandate and the state mandate had already ended.

    Were on our way out of what we call the armpit of Indiana soon, its a big blue zit on the face of a generally red state.
     

    DoggyDaddy

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    Well, I happen to hold a PhD in Pharmaceutical Sciences, I engaged in all phases of the basic research, including preclinical studies, I have cancer therapeutics patents to my name, I am a data scientist, and I have worked for several years with the FDA in particular over what actually constitutes an "approved drug."
    Well yeah, but do you live in your own hillside bunker, surrounded on all sides by Nazis and White Supremacists like JH does??? ;)
     

    snapping turtle

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    “It’s just a mask”
    “It’s just six feet”
    “It’s just two weeks”
    “It’s just non essential businesses “
    “It’s just non essential workers”
    “It’s just a bar”
    “It’s just a restaurant “
    “It’ s just to keep from overwhelming the hospitals”
    “It’s just to make the cases go down”
    “It’s just to flatten the curve”
    “It’s just a few inmates”
    “It’s just to keep others from getting scared”
    “It ‘a just a few more weeks”
    “It’s just a church. You can still pray”
    “It’s just a bracelet”
    “It’s just an app”
    It’s just for tracing”
    “It’s just to let others know you are safe to be around”
    “It’s just to let others know who you’ve been in contact with”
    “It’s just a few more months”
    “It’s just for large gatherings not for protests”
    “It’s just a vaccine”
    “It’s just a few violent protests”
    “It’s just a little microchip”
    “It’s just a blood test”
    “It’s just a scan”
    “It’s just for Medical information “
    It’s just a vaccine certificate “
    “It’s just like a credit card”
    “It’s just a few places that don’t take cash”
    “It’s just so you can travel”
    “It’s just so you can get a drivers license “
    “It’s just so you can vote”
    “It’s just a few more years”

    It is just the new world order.
     

    jamil

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    So what’s being vaccinated actually do, then?
    For the delta variant? If you’re younger than 50 it keeps you out of the hospital. And if you do have to go to the hospital, you’ll have a way better go of it than people under 50 who are not vaccinated. Of course your chances of that are very slim anyway if you’re young.

    If you’re older than 50, the DV has a low CFR anyway. But it looks like you may be better off without the vaccine.
     

    jamil

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    So the delta actually does kill the vaxxed?

    I was told that wasn’t so?
    I posted some data from The UK, which showed of the deaths due to covid (primarily delta-variant), people who were vaccinated and over 50, fared worse than non-vaxinated. Deaths for people under 50 were of course very low, but of the deaths in that group, non-vaccinated people fared way worse.

    At most, if you've already decided, it may make you feel better about your decision, but without knowing the outcomes were not caused by factors not related to the vaccines, but I wouldn't let this information alone sway me. But, it's worth mentioning because it shows that what we're being told about who is dying from the Delta Variant are probably lies.

    I say probably because it's hard to say if we would have the same results in the US. The data did not break down deaths by vaccine manufacturer. Maybe they were mostly AstraZenica which is not available in the US. Currently these are the vaccines approved for use in the uk:
    • Moderna vaccine
    • Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine
    • Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine
    I'll need to go back and edit my previous post. I thought that only Pfizer and AstraZenica were approved in the UK.
     

    jaymark6655

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    Antibody-dependent Enhancement, (ADE) occurs when the antibodies generated during an immune response recognize and bind to a pathogen, but they are unable to prevent infection. Instead, these antibodies act as a “Trojan horse,” allowing the pathogen to get into cells and exacerbate the immune response. I think this might be a real possibility here.
     
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