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  • edporch

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    Look, if you want one that runs, so that YOU don't have to( as in bear or big cat) get a glock. Sorry, but that's the facts.
    Yes, Glock 10mm's reliably go "bang" right out of the box, they're relatively low cost. and have a good round capacity.
    That's ALL they have going for them as far as I'm concerned. LOL :-)

    I say this as somebody who over the years has acquired a Model 20, 29, and 40.
    I do use the Model 20 or Model 40 with Underwood 200 Grain hardcast bullets as a sidearm at my NW Wisconsin fishing shack in the woods.
    The rest of the time, they just sit in the safe.
     

    DadSmith

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    I had a Glock 20. Reliable but not the I did not care for it at all.
    Yep had a G20 very reliable but felt like holding a brick instead of a handgun. Ergonomics was horrible. My Rock Ultra FS 10MM eats everything I have feed it so far. It like the original magazine it came with Wilson combat 9rd magazine's and Tripp Research 9rd magazine's. Absolutely love it. Was a gift from my son for Christmas. He knew I wanted a 10MM in 1911 and got me one.
     

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    My G29 is very picky about ammo. I guess they aren’t all Perfection?
    No, Glocks are far from perfection overall.
    Terrible ergonomics, don't have a natural aim for me, and have terrible triggers.
    As for your Glock 29, you got an unreliable one.
    The one I have has never failed to function even once.

    Many years ago I bought a new Glock 21 .45ACP.
    It would jam every few rounds no matter what ammo or magazine I used.

    Sent it back to Glock, they sent it back as "fixed".
    I did test it and it worked reliably, but I still never had any confidence in it and sold it to a guy in my hometown.
    Saw him recently and he's still happy with it.
     

    churchmouse

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    No, Glocks are far from perfection overall.
    Terrible ergonomics, don't have a natural aim for me, and have terrible triggers.
    As for your Glock 29, you got an unreliable one.
    The one I have has never failed to function even once.

    Many years ago I bought a new Glock 21 .45ACP.
    It would jam every few rounds no matter what ammo or magazine I used.

    Sent it back to Glock, they sent it back as "fixed".
    I did test it and it worked reliably, but I still never had any confidence in it and sold it to a guy in my hometown.
    Saw him recently and he's still happy with it.
    Thats my issues with those who want to shove G**** perfection in your face at every opportunity. Screw all of that. And it Irritates the :poop: out of me when it is done.
    Being a realist I am no on to say the 1911 is the end all because it is not. I have had my share of problems with them. But they sure are purty pistols.
     

    Colt556

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    Thats my issues with those who want to shove G**** perfection in your face at every opportunity. Screw all of that. And it Irritates the :poop: out of me when it is done.
    Being a realist I am no on to say the 1911 is the end all because it is not. I have had my share of problems with them. But they sure are purty pistols.
    I’ve always wondered why if Glocks are so perfect why do all their fanboys start changing all the parts in them as soon as they get one? I have 4 Glocks, 3 10mm and one 9mm, and they work fine but are just boring. Shooting a Glock is sorta like driving a Chrysler Minivan or eating a regular McDonald’s hamburger, they get the job done but that’s it. Shooting my 1911s, Witnesses or 610 are fun and exciting. I respect others opinions as to what they want to buy and shoot but the Glock fanboys continuous boasting and belittling others is just nauseating and boorish.
     

    edporch

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    Thats my issues with those who want to shove G**** perfection in your face at every opportunity. Screw all of that. And it Irritates the :poop: out of me when it is done.
    Being a realist I am no on to say the 1911 is the end all because it is not. I have had my share of problems with them. But they sure are purty pistols.
    Glocks are FAR from "perfection".
    I look at them as entry level, usually reliable out of the box, utilitarian pistols, with terrible ergonomics, terrible trigger, and terrible natural point of aim.
     

    bwframe

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    Which gen is preferred?
    I'm hoping that Glock will make a Gen5 G20. I'd certainly take a Gen4 version though, if I came across the right deal.

    Either way, I'm pretty sure all further Glocks for me will be MOS versions. Seems foolish to invest in a Glock without that bit of modern versatility.

    The friend's G20 I tried shot very similar to my EDC G19.
     

    88E30M50

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    I’ve had 2 G20s and 1 G29. I keep thinking that I want a 10mm Glock, but when I get one, it does not stay around long. The G29 was a bit of a problem child in that it would not drop mags free and it sometimes didn’t reset the trigger. The first G20 would occasionally stovepipe but other than that, it was reliable. The second G20 was reliable, but no more so than my Delta Elite.

    Sure, Glocks can be reliable but it’s not a guarantee. The Glock brand has been one of the most frustrating gun types for me. I really wanted to love the G30 and G19 and had two of each at one time but the G30 just loved to throw brass into my face and nothing I tried could alter that. The G19s just didn’t work for me, which was odd since I love my G23s. I figured that the G19 would be an even better G23 but was wrong. For some reason, I didn’t shoot them well and there was the occasional BTF there too.

    I sold the second G20 when I realized that I just didn’t like it. I still have a G21, which I like a lot but the G20 never clicked for me. So, the myth of perfection is just that. It’s marketing hype. Sure, there are lots of really good Glocks out there but there are also lots of really good 1911s, Sigs, Walthers, M&Ps and lots of others too. Glock does not have a lock on reliability and they can produce a stinker from time to time just like any manufacturer.

    One thing Glock does do well is to produce fanboi’s. Start a 1911 specific thread and Glock fanboi’s are attracted like a moth to a flame.
     

    bwframe

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    ...One thing Glock does do well is to produce fanboi’s. Start a 1911 specific thread and Glock fanboi’s are attracted like a moth to a flame.
    :dunno:

    Strangely, there are a lot of folks who don't have trouble with Glocks. Hmm.

    Seems as if there are folks who are quite offended when the G-word is brought up at all?

    Wonder if the folks recommending their working knowledge and experience are just making it all up and lieing to mess with those that are in the anti-G-word crowd?

    :scratch:
     

    churchmouse

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    :dunno:

    Strangely, there are a lot of folks who don't have trouble with Glocks. Hmm.

    Seems as if there are folks who are quite offended when the G-word is brought up at all?

    Wonder if the folks recommending their working knowledge and experience are just making it all up and lyeing to mess with those that are in the anti-G-word crowd?

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    OK. Point is we (1911 people) dont stick our opinions in the many G**** threads in here. And if they do I delete the crap.
    Come on man we all get it. My referring to them as G****s is a damned joke for crap sake. Started a long time ago.
    Run what you trust.
     

    bwframe

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    OK. Point is we (1911 people) dont stick our opinions in the many G**** threads in here. And if they do I delete the crap.
    Come on man we all get it. My referring to them as G****s is a damned joke for crap sake. Started a long time ago.
    Run what you trust.
    First off, I was not trying to poke any bears. :stickpoke:Much less you sir!

    Just pointing, out as a G "fanboi" :rolleyes:, I do follow the G threads. Plenty of other gun recommendations in those threads that arguably are off topic, yet still relevant to the poster reading the thread.

    Heck, the other gun recommenders might actually be right once in a while? Especially when there are more than one chiming in with similar recommendations? Dunno... :scratch:
     

    DadSmith

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    The four main things I hated about my Glock 20sf was the ergonomics, point of aim, and you destroyed brass with full power 10mm rds. For a reloader that kills the pocket book. The trigger sucks.

    I absolutely loved the accuracy which on a rest shot 200gr wfngc bullets 50 yards with around a 4.5" group. It was absolutely reliable.

    Now I have a Rock Island 10mm ultra fs. It so far has been absolutely reliable, it doesn't split the cases of full power 10mm rds. The ergonomics are absolutely amazing. It just feels perfect for the 10mm cartridge weight wise. It also has a great trigger out of the box. I have not shot it at 50 yards yet I'm still breaking it in only 350rds so far iirc. As I get use to it and after braking it in I'll move out to 50 yards on rest and see how it does.

    I blame Churchmouse. I'm totally addicted to 1911's now.
     

    churchmouse

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    First off, I was not trying to poke any bears. :stickpoke:Much less you sir!

    Just pointing, out as a G "fanboi" :rolleyes:, I do follow the G threads. Plenty of other gun recommendations in those threads that arguably are off topic, yet still relevant to the poster reading the thread.

    Heck, the other gun recommenders might actually be right once in a while? Especially when there are more than one chiming in with similar recommendations? Dunno... :scratch:
    For sure. I have been steard into CZ's and other things from folks with knowledge.

    It just never fails that some G**** guy will step in and stir the pile in any given 1911 thread.
    Never fails. The arguments and comparisons have been ongoing and some are actually well done. As in this thread save for a couple the incite has been stellar.
    We need to gt down to LMW's and run some rounds. I will show you mine if you reciprocate....:):
     
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