Biden popularity

[IndyDave1776]

Funny, because that's exactly what I think of most of the people who voted opposite of me.

The only issue I recall you raising is the border and travel ban. You have left me with the understanding that you are willing to sell out our rights for people who DO NOT have any right whatsoever to enter our country.


Your argument reminds me very much of this slogan:

Cthulu for President! Why settle for the lesser evil?

 

[Kutnupe14]

The only issue I recall you raising is the border and travel ban. You have left me with the understanding that you are willing to sell out our rights for people who DO NOT have any right whatsoever to enter our country.


Your argument reminds me very much of this slogan:

Cthulu for President! Why settle for the lesser evil?

Then you have a very poor understanding of my political outlook.

 

[IndyDave1776]

Then you have a very poor understanding of my political outlook.

Ok, then what do you see in Trump that makes him more dangerous than an administration hell-bent on stripping us of our first and second amendment rights and forcing our children into the most twisted dreams of a sociopathic pervert? Then we could get into regulating tens of thousands of jobs out of existence, sympathy with and/or assistance to hostile foreign nations, lawlessness to the point of gloating about getting away with things Trump was wrongly impeached for allegedly doing, and gloating about rigging the election.

So, please enlighten me.

 

[Chewie]

Staying quiet and searching for more popcorn!

 

[IndyDave1776]

Staying quiet and searching for more popcorn!

Is this enough?

 

[Bennettjh]

These seem exactly like the type of posts CM posted about earlier.


I’m staying out of this thread, no good is going to come of this.

I'm a spectator in here. If someone will come to a gun forum, and admit voting for a gun grabber, they'll probably have no problem arguing and deflecting all day long in the political section(only). Life's too short for that in my book, I'm here for the guns.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Ok, then what do you see in Trump that makes him more dangerous than an administration hell-bent on stripping us of our first and second amendment rights and forcing our children into the most twisted dreams of a sociopathic pervert? Then we could get into regulating tens of thousands of jobs out of existence, sympathy with and/or assistance to hostile foreign nations, lawlessness to the point of gloating about getting away with things Trump was wrongly impeached for allegedly doing, and gloating about rigging the election.

So, please enlighten me.

Trump is a demagogue. He's doesn't inspire, nor want, loyalty to the nation. He want unwaviering fealty to himself. Full stop. If he can con people into believing that their loyalty to him is actually loyalty to the nation, he's ok with that too. He keeps his supporters fed, on a constant supply of victimhood and entitlement; thinking that "their America" is the only valid vision, and that "others," are taking it away from them.
You say Biden is hell bent on stripping use of our first and second amendment rights, and yet don't even mention that Trump has been vocal about suppressing the media, and actually has weakened our second amendment rights. And yet, plenty still pray at his alter... carrying his water, and even attacking the seat of government in his name. As the capitol was assaulted, he was making calls on finding ways to overturn the election he legally lost.
Trump came into office sitting pretty, from a nation handed off to him by the Obama Administration, and then he dismantled it. Sure are people that think that the nation was in better shape on Trump's last day, than Obama's. Well, that hogwash rooted in the pervasive idolatry of Trump.
Trump IS dangerous, and plenty of voters recognized that, hence why he got the pick slip. He has neither the intelligence, aptitude, nor temperament to do anything other than be the crook that he is; and now that his tax returns have been released, we just may see exactly how much of a crook he actually is.... not that I expect the faithful to say anything other, at the direction Trump, than "it's rigged." But not even that will keep him out of a orange jumpsuit if the criminality many suspect is proven.

 

[Ingomike]

Trump is a demagogue. He's doesn't inspire, nor want, loyalty to the nation. He want unwaviering fealty to himself. Full stop. If he can con people into believing that their loyalty to him is actually loyalty to the nation, he's ok with that too. He keeps his supporters fed, on a constant supply of victimhood and entitlement; thinking that "their America" is the only valid vision, and that "others," are taking it away from them.
You say Biden is hell bent on stripping use of our first and second amendment rights, and yet don't even mention that Trump has been vocal about suppressing the media, and actually has weakened our second amendment rights. And yet, plenty still pray at his alter... carrying his water, and even attacking the seat of government in his name. As the capitol was assaulted, he was making calls on finding ways to overturn the election he legally lost.
Trump came into office sitting pretty, from a nation handed off to him by the Obama Administration, and then he dismantled it. Sure are people that think that the nation was in better shape on Trump's last day, than Obama's. Well, that hogwash rooted in the pervasive idolatry of Trump.
Trump IS dangerous, and plenty of voters recognized that, hence why he got the pick slip. He has neither the intelligence, aptitude, nor temperament to do anything other than be the crook that he is; and now that his tax returns have been released, we just may see exactly how much of a crook he actually is.... not that I expect the faithful to say anything other, at the direction Trump, than "it's rigged." But not even that will keep him out of a orange jumpsuit if the criminality many suspect is proven.

That post really clears up a lot, lucky you have the deep state on your side...

 

[Kutnupe14]

I'm a spectator in here. If someone will come to a gun forum, and admit voting for a gun grabber, they'll probably have no problem arguing and deflecting all day long in the political section(only). Life's too short for that in my book, I'm here for the guns.

Is this another one of the "ban Kut," attempts because I don't agree with the group, and use the exact same techniques that other posters do to do it? Because your post seems to be exactly like the one Mr. Hatin' has issue with of mine. Your implication is that because I voted for Biden, noting that I have stated on numerous occasions that I do not agree with his gun stance, I do not belong here. So to put it succinctly, you believe that Democrat voters from the last election shouldn't be allow to be a part of gun forums. To anyone owning a commercial endeavor, immediately telling half of your potential customers they "aren't welcome," is just bad business. I'm here for the guns too, I stay for the interaction, and to prove that there are gun owners that don't adhere to you conservatism commandments exactly as you want them to.

 

[IndyBeerman]

I'm just going to say this, and not directed at anyone.

But some people really need to take off the Virtual Reality headsets and turn off the selective noise canceling earphones and wake up.

 

[T.Lex]

But some people really need to take off the Virtual Reality headsets and turn off the selective noise canceling earphones and wake up.

I call BS.

There's no way someone can sleep with a VR headset and earphones on.

 

[printcraft]

 

[BugI02]

Trump is a demagogue. He's doesn't inspire, nor want, loyalty to the nation. He want unwaviering fealty to himself. Full stop. If he can con people into believing that their loyalty to him is actually loyalty to the nation, he's ok with that too. He keeps his supporters fed, on a constant supply of victimhood and entitlement; thinking that "their America" is the only valid vision, and that "others," are taking it away from them.
You say Biden is hell bent on stripping use of our first and second amendment rights, and yet don't even mention that Trump has been vocal about suppressing the media, and actually has weakened our second amendment rights. And yet, plenty still pray at his alter... carrying his water, and even attacking the seat of government in his name. As the capitol was assaulted, he was making calls on finding ways to overturn the election he legally lost.
Trump came into office sitting pretty, from a nation handed off to him by the Obama Administration, and then he dismantled it. Sure are people that think that the nation was in better shape on Trump's last day, than Obama's. Well, that hogwash rooted in the pervasive idolatry of Trump.
Trump IS dangerous, and plenty of voters recognized that, hence why he got the pick slip. He has neither the intelligence, aptitude, nor temperament to do anything other than be the crook that he is; and now that his tax returns have been released, we just may see exactly how much of a crook he actually is.... not that I expect the faithful to say anything other, at the direction Trump, than "it's rigged." But not even that will keep him out of a orange jumpsuit if the criminality many suspect is proven.

You see a demagogue, I see a man appealing to people who want to make America great, not convert it into Wokeistan

You believe he wants only personal loyalty, I see a man trying to line up a few administration members whom he could trust despite all the efforts of the deep state and a complicit MSM against him

I don't see where a Democrat sympathizer has any room to talk about 'keeping supporters fed on a constant supply of victimhood and entitlement'

I believe we only have to look to the EU and the UK to see what the vision of Democrats will bring us, and the Brits were at pains to throw off that yoke. I will take the way America was as the most valid vision until someone can show me a truly better vision, not just one that their side likes better. Conservatives are cautious about change for changes sake and place value on what has a track record of working. Not seeing any track record of Marxism/Socialism/Communism working

Not seeing Trump wanting to ban, register and confiscate whole classes of weapons nor place encumberances on firearms ownership like liability insurance and training requirements, nor did I see Trump campaign to censor his critics, deplatform them and get cable companies to drop them. I believe he wanted to see them held accountable

Alter is a verb, not the noun you were trying for

Even if I grant the laughable canard that Obama left Trump 'sitting pretty', why was he able to so drastically improve that country and economy if Obama left him in such wonderous straits? Could it be you protest too much? And trying to limit it to 'were people better on Trump's last day than Obama's last day' is disingenuous, carefully selected timing for the purpose of propaganda. We could just as easily pick the end of Obama's first month in office and compare it to Trump's. I would bet that you could take any ten dates randomly scattered through the terms of them both and compare conditions between them both and Trump would win most of them. It is like comparing GW Bush's highest presidential approval, which was 90% and came just after 9/11, with Obama's high water mark of 67%

The only thing Trump was dangerous to was business as usual and those who desired to enhance their personal power by maintaining the antagonistic, grievance feeding, divide and conquer governing style of the left

 

[IndyDave1776]

You see a demagogue, I see a man appealing to people who want to make America great, not convert it into Wokeistan

You believe he wants only personal loyalty, I see a man trying to line up a few administration members whom he could trust despite all the efforts of the deep state and a complicit MSM against him

I don't see where a Democrat sympathizer has any room to talk about 'keeping supporters fed on a constant supply of victimhood and entitlement'

I believe we only have to look to the EU and the UK to see what the vision of Democrats will bring us, and the Brits were at pains to throw off that yoke. I will take the way America was as the most valid vision until someone can show me a truly better vision, not just one that their side likes better. Conservatives are cautious about change for changes sake and place value on what has a track record of working. Not seeing any track record of Marxism/Socialism/Communism working

Not seeing Trump wanting to ban, register and confiscate whole classes of weapons nor place encumberances on firearms ownership like liability insurance and training requirements, nor did I see Trump campaign to censor his critics, deplatform them and get cable companies to drop them. I believe he wanted to see them held accountable

Alter is a verb, not the noun you were trying for

Even if I grant the laughable canard that Obama left Trump 'sitting pretty', why was he able to so drastically improve that country and economy if Obama left him in such wonderous straits? Could it be you protest too much? And trying to limit it to 'were people better on Trump's last day than Obama's last day' is disingenuous, carefully selected timing for the purpose of propaganda. We could just as easily pick the end of Obama's first month in office and compare it to Trump's. I would bet that you could take any ten dates randomly scattered through the terms of them both and compare conditions between them both and Trump would win most of them. It is like comparing GW Bush's highest presidential approval, which was 90% and came just after 9/11, with Obama's high water mark of 67%

The only thing Trump was dangerous to was business as usual and those who desired to enhance their personal power by maintaining the antagonistic, grievance feeding, divide and conquer governing style of the left

Very well said.

 

[Ingomike]

You see a demagogue, I see a man appealing to people who want to make America great, not convert it into Wokeistan

You believe he wants only personal loyalty, I see a man trying to line up a few administration members whom he could trust despite all the efforts of the deep state and a complicit MSM against him

I don't see where a Democrat sympathizer has any room to talk about 'keeping supporters fed on a constant supply of victimhood and entitlement'

I believe we only have to look to the EU and the UK to see what the vision of Democrats will bring us, and the Brits were at pains to throw off that yoke. I will take the way America was as the most valid vision until someone can show me a truly better vision, not just one that their side likes better. Conservatives are cautious about change for changes sake and place value on what has a track record of working. Not seeing any track record of Marxism/Socialism/Communism working

Not seeing Trump wanting to ban, register and confiscate whole classes of weapons nor place encumberances on firearms ownership like liability insurance and training requirements, nor did I see Trump campaign to censor his critics, deplatform them and get cable companies to drop them. I believe he wanted to see them held accountable

Alter is a verb, not the noun you were trying for

Even if I grant the laughable canard that Obama left Trump 'sitting pretty', why was he able to so drastically improve that country and economy if Obama left him in such wonderous straits? Could it be you protest too much? And trying to limit it to 'were people better on Trump's last day than Obama's last day' is disingenuous, carefully selected timing for the purpose of propaganda. We could just as easily pick the end of Obama's first month in office and compare it to Trump's. I would bet that you could take any ten dates randomly scattered through the terms of them both and compare conditions between them both and Trump would win most of them. It is like comparing GW Bush's highest presidential approval, which was 90% and came just after 9/11, with Obama's high water mark of 67%

The only thing Trump was dangerous to was business as usual and those who desired to enhance their personal power by maintaining the antagonistic, grievance feeding, divide and conquer governing style of the left

Great post...

 

[Chewie]

Is this another one of the "ban Kut," attempts because I don't agree with the group, and use the exact same techniques that other posters do to do it? Because your post seems to be exactly like the one Mr. Hatin' has issue with of mine. Your implication is that because I voted for Biden, noting that I have stated on numerous occasions that I do not agree with his gun stance, I do not belong here. So to put it succinctly, you believe that Democrat voters from the last election shouldn't be allow to be a part of gun forums. To anyone owning a commercial endeavor, immediately telling half of your potential customers they "aren't welcome," is just bad business. I'm here for the guns too, I stay for the interaction, and to prove that there are gun owners that don't adhere to you conservatism commandments exactly as you want them to.

Seems like a knee jerk over reaction to someone's opinion. I don't think he is implying a ban, he is questioning your reasoning for voting the way you did and then defending a known gun grabber on a gun forum.
Just my humble opinion.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Seems like a knee jerk over reaction to someone's opinion. I don't think he is implying a ban, he is questioning your reasoning for voting the way you did and then defending a known gun grabber on a gun forum.
Just my humble opinion.

Trust me. He’s been trying ever since..... we’ll, a long time.

 

[JCSR]

More popcorn anyone?

 

[jamil]

What about a child born abroad with two US citizen parents? They wouldn't have a US birth certificate, and maybe not even one issued at the time of birth depending on just where they were born.

I suppose that may be an exception. Regardless, the point was that pretty much everyone has some kind of documentation that proves where they were born, who their parents are, and what was their citizenship at birth.

Yes they are, see below.

Indiana doesn't have a DL they have an operator license, different name but same thing right? Some states have different names for the same thing, doesn't mean they aren't the same.

There may be different names for birth certificates. I'm not sure what every state calls theirs. But there is a difference between a document issued by a hospital and a document issued by a government agency that certifies who the newborn is, where he or she was born, who the parents are, and what was their citizenship at birth.

Difference Between Birth Certificate And Certificate Of Live Birth

Here is how you can know the Difference Between Birth Certificate And Certificate Of Live Birth. Check it out!

thelawdictionary.org

But anyway, I can't believe we're still talking about Obama's citizenship status. Who gives a flying ****? Well. Apparently enough people do to carry on an argument still. STILL! So the better question is, why should we give a flying ****? Obama is over. Obiden is president now. America is ****ed. But at least a couple of people are happy because they get to drag INGO.

 

[Chewie]

I suppose that may be an exception. Regardless, the point was that pretty much everyone has some kind of documentation that proves where they were born, who their parents are, and what was their citizenship at birth.


There may be different names for birth certificates. I'm not sure what every state calls theirs. But there is a difference between a document issued by a hospital and a document issued by a government agency that certifies who the newborn is, where he or she was born, who the parents are, and what was their citizenship at birth.

Difference Between Birth Certificate And Certificate Of Live Birth

Here is how you can know the Difference Between Birth Certificate And Certificate Of Live Birth. Check it out!

thelawdictionary.org

But anyway, I can't believe we're still talking about Obama's citizenship status. Who gives a flying ****? Well. Apparently enough people do to carry on an argument still. STILL! So the better question is, why should we give a flying ****? Obama is over. Obiden is president now. America is ****ed. But at least a couple of people are happy because they get to drag INGO.

Because maybe there is a trend appearing?