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    rooster

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    Team INGO: I'll be hit and miss monitoring the Statehouse calendar early next week due to the passing of a family member.

    If someone spots a bill of interest coming up in committee for a hearing (particularly HB 1034 Right to Carry a Handgun AKA Constitutional Carry) bump the thread and shout it from the rooftops.

    I'm should be back in Avon Tuesday night and if HB 1034 comes up on Wednesday I plan to be at the Statehouse.

    Things are about to get a lot more real for 2A supporters. It's time to let those at 200 West Washington Street know we're here.
    Kelly first thank you for doing this thread. I’ve followed for years but have not been active in terms of going to the statehouse. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

    I would like to get more involved so what should one expect when going to the statehouse? Are there signs and information when one arrives at the appointed day to tell you where to go? Dress code? Anything else someone like myself should know prior to attending ?
     

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    Kelly first thank you for doing this thread. I’ve followed for years but have not been active in terms of going to the statehouse. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

    I would like to get more involved so what should one expect when going to the statehouse? Are there signs and information when one arrives at the appointed day to tell you where to go? Dress code? Anything else someone like myself should know prior to attending ?
    The entry is on the east side of the Statehouse. This year with testimony at times in different locations from the committee it will be a bit of play by ear on where to go. The Statehouse isn't hard to negotiate. Basement and the floors are pretty well marked. There are people who can give directions. I usually wear dress pants and a polo (NRA or Glock for the occasion) since I'm coming from work, not really a dress code. Hopefully see some blue The 2A Project t-shirts to counter the red t-shirt wearing mad moms.

    With the COVID it looks like getting in the room is limited to those testifying. There are monitors outside the hearing room with the live feed.

    It's a big building, the basement is kind of dank. Some of the rooms really suck, the Senate and House Chambers are SWEET! Hope to see you there. I needed a hobby, that's why I do it.
     

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    OK INGO, here comes my review of some of the newly posted bills.

    HB1124: Oppose. Surpised about the authors, Matt Lehman and Chris Judy. Near-mirror to SB 64, takes control from local level and has way too specific requirements on who can do the training.

    Handgun training for school employees. Provides that, before an employee or any other staff member of a school corporation, charter school, or nonpublic school may carry a firearm in or on school property as authorized by a school board of the school corporation, charter school, or nonpublic school, the employee or staff member shall do the following: (1) Successfully complete certain specialized weapons training or other firearm training. (2) Provide proof to the school board that the employee or other staff member has successfully completed the training. (3) Complete the Minnesota multiphasic personality inventory 2 (MMPI-II) and provide the results

    HB1163: Oppose. From Julie Olthoff (District 19, an R with a B- from NRA-ILA). This goes after the 0.8% of criminal who get their firearms at gun shows. Sent to Public Policy Committee, I may go to this one to see Jim Lucas ask questions, and while I'm there speak in opposition.

    Background checks at gun shows. Requires a person wishing to sell, trade, or transfer a firearm at a gun show to transact the sale, trade, or transfer through a firearms dealer (dealer). Specifies certain exemptions. Requires a dealer to complete the sale, trade, or transfer of a firearm if the following conditions are met: (1) The dealer agrees to transact the sale, trade, or transfer of the firearm. (2) The dealer is able to successfully contact the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). (3) The dealer receives authorization from NICS to complete the sale, trade, or transfer of the firearm. (4) The recipient of the firearm being sold, traded, or transferred: (A) is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm under federal or state law; and (B) is in compliance with all federal and state laws pertaining to the possession and transfer of certain firearms as defined under the National Firearms Act (NFA firearm), if applicable. Allows a dealer to refuse to transact the sale, trade, or transfer of a firearm for any reason.​

    How does this even work? I know other states have this system so does the dealer have to enter the firearm into their books and then the buyer fills out a 4473 like usual or is there a way for the FFL to simply conduct a 'background check' on the buyer without paperwork?
     

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    How does this even work? I know other states have this system so does the dealer have to enter the firearm into their books and then the buyer fills out a 4473 like usual or is there a way for the FFL to simply conduct a 'background check' on the buyer without paperwork?
    It's a full blown 4473 process from reading the whole thing. Or just walk across the street for free I guess. This should really clamp down on the 0.8% of criminals who use firearms in crimes. or at least the ones too stupid to walk across the street...
     

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    How does this even work? I know other states have this system so does the dealer have to enter the firearm into their books and then the buyer fills out a 4473 like usual or is there a way for the FFL to simply conduct a 'background check' on the buyer without paperwork?
    It's a full blown 4473 process from reading the whole thing. Or just walk across the street for free I guess. This should really clamp down on the 0.8% of criminals who use firearms in crimes. or at least the ones too stupid to walk across the street...
     

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    It's a full blown 4473 process from reading the whole thing. Or just walk across the street for free I guess. This should really clamp down on the 0.8% of criminals who use firearms in crimes. or at least the ones too stupid to walk across the street...
    So does the dealer have to enter it into their log book from the seller like they bought it or just call NICS and go through the questions?
     

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    So does the dealer have to enter it into their log book from the seller like they bought it or just call NICS and go through the questions?
    That's how I understand it. I know now you can do a private sale and run it through an FFL. It would be like that, only mandatory :n00b: Again, what stops someone from walking across the street.

    I'll keep an eye on this bill. If Ben Smaltz gives it a hearing, I'll be there, just... because.
     

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    When people talk about mandatory background checks, that's what I ask people.
    Do they really think criminals would do it.
    [PURPLE SARCASM FONT] I know when I trade drugs for guns, I always go to an FFL because it's against the law not to do so. This is especially true when I'm looking for a drop gun I can throw in the river after whacking someone who needs whacked. [PURPLE SARCASM FONT]
     

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    OK INGO peeps, here we go! I'll start with the ones that caught my eye while I was looking for 2A-related bills. I didn't read too far on these...

    HB 1156: Reading the title I yelled OH HELL YES!! Wait, we need this??!!

    Prohibition on microchipping employees. Provides that the definition of an "employer" subject to the prohibition against requiring the implantation of devices includes the state or any individual, partnership, association, limited liability company, corporation, business trust, or other governmental entity or political subdivision that has one or more employees.

    HB 1184/1244/1250/1294/1296; SB 241/256: All in response to the never-ending COVID emergency/the Governor (AKA Lockdown McGee) can't just keep it going until the legislature comes back. HB 1184 is more specific on actions, SB 263 is concerning religious services.

    Uniform treatment of entities during an emergency. Provides that during a disaster or emergency beyond local control, any order, rule, or regulation made, amended, or rescinded by the governor limiting the operation of a business or industry shall be applied equally to all other businesses and industries. Provides that if there is a specific threat to a particular business or industry, any disparate treatment towards the particular business or industry shall be justified by specific findings as to why the particular business or industry is being treated differently.

    HB 1281: Good news! Nothing about hiding in the bushes and peeping!

    Unlawful surveillance of another's dwelling. Provides that, with certain exceptions, a person who knowingly or intentionally uses a camera or electronic surveillance equipment: (1) located outside of another person's private property; (2) to record images or data of the interior of the other person's dwelling; and (3) without the other person's consent; commits a Class C infraction. Makes a technical correction.


     

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    HB 1232: This is HB 1034 Right to Carry a Handgun. I don't mean similar, when the bottoms sentences on page 34 are identical on both bills, the only difference is the authors.

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    Right to carry a handgun. Repeals the law that requires a person to obtain a license to carry a handgun in Indiana. Specifies that certain persons who are not otherwise prohibited from carrying or possessing a handgun are not required to obtain or possess a license or permit from the state to carry a handgun in Indiana. Prohibits certain individuals from knowingly or intentionally carrying a handgun. Creates the crime of "unlawful carrying of a handgun". Provides that a prohibited person who knowingly or intentionally carries a handgun commits a Class A misdemeanor. Specifies that the unlawful carrying of a handgun is a Level 4 felony when a person: (1) is less than 21 years of age; and (2) has an adjudication as a delinquent child for an act described by IC 35-47-4-5 (unlawful possession of a firearm by a serious violent felon). Allows a resident of Indiana who wishes to carry a firearm in another state under a reciprocity agreement entered into by Indiana and the other state to obtain from the superintendent of the state police department a reciprocity license. Requires law enforcement agencies to make use of certain data bases when issuing reciprocity licenses. Makes conforming amendments
     

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    HB 1241 Possession of Firearms. See comments on my previous post. This one changed the title, then copy/paste. Not good if you're in school, I'm all for it for 2A Rights!

    Also per NRA-ILA email, Ben Smaltz (Public Policy Committee Chairman) is introducing HB 1369 Lawful Carry (not on the IGA website yet). All of these bills are referred to this Public Policy Committee. Is there a legislative version of the Philly Special in our future??

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    Possession of firearms. Repeals the law that requires a person to obtain a license to carry a handgun in Indiana. Specifies that certain persons who are not otherwise prohibited from carrying or possessing a handgun are not required to obtain or possess a license or permit from the state to carry a handgun in Indiana. Prohibits certain individuals from knowingly or intentionally carrying a handgun including persons convicted of a federal or state offense punishable by a term of imprisonment exceeding one year. Creates the crime of "unlawful carrying of a handgun".
     

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    HB 1289 Constitutional Carry of Handguns. Before you get too excited, Nisly's name is on it so I'm suspicious based on previous BS pulled by this individual. Not to mention his affiliation with NAGR and Dudley Brown.

    Has stuff dealing with employees of the Indiana Government Center Campus and DNR managed land. Not as many pages as HB 1034/1232/1241. If I'm REALLY bored later I'll compare and contrast.

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    Constitutional carry of handguns. Repeals the law that requires a person to obtain a license to carry a handgun in Indiana. Provides that a nonresident of Indiana may carry a handgun in Indiana without possessing a license or permit to carry a handgun from the person's state of residence. Allows a member of the: (1) general assembly; (2) general assembly's professional staff; or (3) lobby registration commission; to possess a handgun on the Indiana government center campus if the person is not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm. Allows a person who wishes to carry a handgun in another state under a reciprocity agreement entered into by Indiana and the other state to obtain a license to carry a handgun. Beginning July 1, 2021, permits a person not otherwise prohibited from possessing a firearm under state or federal law to possess a firearm on any property that is: (1) affiliated with; (2) operated or managed by; (3) owned by; or (4) leased by; the department of natural resources. Defines certain terms. Makes conforming amendments.
     

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    HB 1295: Elimination of Gun Free Zones. Not the ones you thought of when you read the previous sentence. This deals with the Indiana State Fair Commission and their anti-2A antics.


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    Elimination of gun-free zones. Provides that beginning July 1, 2021, the state of Indiana may not regulate: (1) firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories; and (2) the ownership, possession, carrying, transportation, registration, transfer, and storage of firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories. Specifies certain exceptions. Provides that any provision of an ordinance, measure, enactment, rule, or policy enacted by the state and pertaining to: (1) firearms; (2) ammunition; (3) firearm accessories; and (4) the: (A) ownership; (B) possession; (C) carrying; (D) transportation; (E) registration; (F) transfer; and (G) storage of; firearms, ammunition, and firearm accessories; is void July 1, 2021. Provides that a person not otherwise prohibited from carrying or possessing a firearm under federal or state law may carry or possess a firearm, without restriction, on property affiliated with, or regulated by, the following state agencies beginning July 1, 2021: (1) The Indiana state fair commission. (2) The Indiana department of administration. Provides the Indiana state fair commission and Indiana department of administration with rulemaking and emergency rulemaking authority to implement these changes. Specifies certain rulemaking deadlines. Defines certain terms. Makes conforming amendments.
     

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    Wow! We may have 4 Constitutional Carry bills. Moreover, the public policy committee is well represented in the list of authors and co-authors. I am feeling optimistic for this year!
     
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