Off Duty Officer Strikes Girl, Takes Beating From Dad, Shoots Dad

[Frank_N_Stein]

I know indiana is not this way , but you realise in some states if you hit a pedestrian with any motor vehicle you are automatically at fault.
Because you were not in complete control of you vehicle.

Guess he should have been riding on the sidewalk. Accident prevented.

 

[giovani]

Guess he should have been riding on the sidewalk. Accident prevented.

Thats the best you can do, a silly sarcastic remark , come on.

 

[Que]

There was absolutely nothing the officer could have done. It sounds like if he didn't take the action he did he could have killed the little girl. He should have been thanked instead of assaulted.

 

[Que]

Anyone else see this coming a mile away?

No, see what coming?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Thats the best you can do, a silly sarcastic remark , come on.

The girl was in the street. Had he been riding on the sidewalk he wouldn't have had to lay his bike down to avoid her. According to you, it was all the rider's fault even though the girl "darted" into the street and he did all that he could to avoid her. Place fault where it is due and you won't hear another sarcastic remark from me, on this topic anyway.

 

[giovani]

Had the parent been in control , or at least taught the child better , or had the man been in control of his vehicle, the unfortunate event could not have happened.
What he did to save himself from a couple of irational people after the fact is totally justifiable.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

No, see what coming?

"My little Johnny would never harm anyone. I'm sure the policeman was upset that little Johnny was hitting him in the face and kicking him while he was down, but that was no reason to shoot little Johnny. He wouldn't hurt anybody."

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Had the parent been in control , or at least taught the child better , or had the man been in control of his vehicle, the unfortunate event could not have happened.

How the hell can a motorcycle rider driving straight down a (residential I'm assuming) street and not be in control of his vehicle? If you would like I will find you a motorcycle to use and I will play the part of the kid, and I will run out in front of you suddenly and we'll see what happens. If you hit me, you obviously weren't in control of your vehicle and there is no fault on my part whatsoever.

 

[giovani]

Going to fast to come to a controled stop comes to mind

 

[griffin]

"He was about to lose consciousness to people beating him," said Camden, defending the actions of the officer, who works in a West Side police district. "He fired in defense of his life."

Where have I read that before?

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Going to fast to come to a controled stop comes to mind

Were you there or are you Miss Cleo?

 

[Blackhawk2001]

Had the parent been in control , or at least taught the child better , or had the man been in control of his vehicle, the unfortunate event could not have happened.
What he did to save himself from a couple of irational people after the fact is totally justifiable.

Either you have never had a basic physics course, or you've forgotten whatever you learned about equal/opposite reactions and how inertia works.

 

[Jack Burton]

I know indiana is not this way , but you realise in some states if you hit a pedestrian with any motor vehicle you are automatically at fault.
Because you were not in complete control of you vehicle.

You want to give an actual cite on that. My sister killed a 10 year old boy while driving her car and there was never a hint of "fault" on her part. Not even a lawsuit from the parents.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Were you there or are you Miss Cleo?

It's Maywood. You don't speed through the streets of Maywood at night.

The kids play in the streets. The cop knew that and instead wanted to drive like a cafe racer.

You are going to get a beat down in Maywood for running over someone's kid.

Not saying it wasn't self-defense, but riding around like that should be a factor in the grand jury's decision.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZncehIh_Kw[/ame]

 

[DaddyFixSemi]

It sounds like the cop did everything he could to mitigate a bad situation caused by circumstances completely beyond his control. It is a shame that it ended as it did, but nevertheless, it is hard to expect much more than deliberately taking risk of bodily injury plus guaranteed damage to his bike. I would not expect anyone to passively accept physical assault from two individuals without protecting himself. Under other potential circumstances, I may be a whole lot less sympathetic, but it is certainly not his fault that a youngster ran out into the road, and I fail to see what more he could have done other than clairvoyantly seeing the incident and staying in bed that day.

I know I couldn't have said it better myself.

to all those who say that the officer wasn't in control of his bike or other things of that nature, well you can debate it all you want but none of us where when this terrible incident happened so, you can not say for sure if there was anything he could have done different.

 

[jsharmon7]

Going to fast to come to a controled stop comes to mind

At least we're fortunate that you, an eyewitness to this event, are here to tell us how it went down. How fast was he going? Were there cars parked on the side of the street that would have prevented him from seeing anyone darting out until the last possible second? Was it bright and sunny? Was the motorcycle rider texting or otherwise not paying attention? Thanks in advance for the info, it's not often we get to hear it straight from the horse's mouth when we see these stories.

 

[Blackhawk2001]

It's Maywood. You don't speed through the streets of Maywood at night.

The kids play in the streets. The cop knew that and instead wanted to drive like a cafe racer.

You are going to get a beat down in Maywood for running over someone's kid.

Not saying it wasn't self-defense, but riding around like that should be a factor in the grand jury's decision.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZncehIh_Kw

Cafe racer? I read the article, but I can't watch the video you've posted. You have information on the way the motorcycle rider was operating his vehicle that wasn't in the OP?

 

[lovemachine]

Riding his motorcycle . . . in Maywood, at night?

Maywood where kids play right out in the streets?

Unbelievable.

It's Maywood. You don't speed through the streets of Maywood at night.

The kids play in the streets. The cop knew that and instead wanted to drive like a cafe racer.

You are going to get a beat down in Maywood for running over someone's kid.

Not saying it wasn't self-defense, but riding around like that should be a factor in the grand jury's decision.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZncehIh_Kw

The article said the officer was riding thru Maywood, on his way home. Maybe that's the best route to his house?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

How fast was he going?

This fast: Speed Too Fast to Avoid Collision fast.

It's almost like I have seen this before, something bad happens and the driver gets a ticket, except my guy didn't have a badge.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

It's Maywood. You don't speed through the streets of Maywood at night.

The kids play in the streets. The cop knew that and instead wanted to drive like a cafe racer.

You are going to get a beat down in Maywood for running over someone's kid.

Not saying it wasn't self-defense, but riding around like that should be a factor in the grand jury's decision.

So you were there with Miss Cleo?