Legal summaries of the new laws in the 2011 legislative session

[shooter1054]

Maybe a little off topic if so, I apologize. Is there a restriction on carrying on a boat on Lake Monroe, or any other resivoir controlled by ACoE?

 

[Bill of Rights]

That was unaffected. DNR regs a couple of years ago relaxed carry restrictions in DNR-managed properties like state parks, but did not have power to change anything about ACoE properties. Still off limits, as I understand it.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[cschwanz]

Clarification needed on the city parks thing. Does this mean parks like Headwaters, Shoaff, Lawton, Lakeside etc here in Fort Wayne are now carry legal areas? I like going down to some of the festivals in town in the summer, but I hate going there without my carry gun.

 

[Pinpoint]

Bill -

I think that it's AWESOME that I can finally legally take my handgun to the shooting range without needing a gun permit. To me, this opens the door to a long-awaited source of recreation. Nice forum by the way. I'll be checking in often as my involvement in the SPORT of shooting handguns grows. Thanks.

 

[Paco Bedejo]

Clarification needed on the city parks thing. Does this mean parks like Headwaters, Shoaff, Lawton, Lakeside etc here in Fort Wayne are now carry legal areas? I like going down to some of the festivals in town in the summer, but I hate going there without my carry gun.

Normal disclaimer: IANAL

Yes, they are legal. No more ordinance with $2400 fine on & after Friday.

That said, if the entire area is being leased/rented by a private entity & they choose to set up metal detectors with trained officers at ALL entrances, they may deny you entry. This exception seems to have been added specifically for publicly-owned sports arenas.

My wife is interning with Three Rivers Festival & will let me know, as soon as she knows, whether they're planning to set up metal detectors or not.

Normal disclaimer: IANAL

 

[Shadow_of_Deth24]

Ok so the way I am seeing it is that you still cannot carry in places such as public schools? Or am I missing something? SEA 292 seems too vague in my opinion because of the words "with certain exceptions." What are these exceptions? I probably read them already but didnt notice.

All I want to do is carry in the Glenbrook Mall and Three Rivers FCU without being harassed lol

 

[Jeremiah]

The mall and three rivers make thier own rules as they are private property. I'm looking for a new bank that doesn't have such rules myself

 

[Paco Bedejo]

Ok so the way I am seeing it is that you still cannot carry in places such as public schools? Or am I missing something? SEA 292 seems too vague in my opinion because of the words "with certain exceptions." What are these exceptions? I probably read them already but didnt notice.

ALL K-12 schools & daycares which are licensed by the state are off limits unless you have express, written permission from the administration. This is per Indiana Code, not local ordinances, so SEA 292 has absolutely no bearing upon it.

All I want to do is carry in the Glenbrook Mall and Three Rivers FCU without being harassed lol

Concealed means concealed...otherwise, choose to do business with private entities which respect your choice for self-defense.

Good news though is that you can now go to the Zoo, Foellinger Theater, & all other city parks.

 

[Shadow_of_Deth24]

Well I figured you still cannot carry in schools. It was just an example, although these days it should be allowed in alot of schools imo. I do conceal most of the time so those places havent harassed me yet lol. I just dont understand why businesses put up signs that say "Firearms Prohibited." Thats just basically telling a criminal to rob them ya know. So frustrating.

They should make a law that prohibits those signs lol

 

[Paco Bedejo]

They should make a law that prohibits those signs lol

No "lol" about it... I want to live in a country where private property rights are protected. So long as we have publicly owned property, however, the entirety of our rights should be admissible.

 

[Jordan_J]

I have a couple of questions about the bill, it sounds great but just kind of like some clarification.

College campuses? There are bars and places on campus I like to go to occasionally is that still off limits to carry?

The next one is can my work still tell me I can't carry my gun there? I am thinking they can due to it being private property however they don't technically own it just lease.

 

[Bill of Rights]

There is no law forbidding carry at college campuses. Traditionally, they will fire or expel faculty and staff or students, respectively, who do so and will tell others that they are no longer welcome, invoking trespassing if that is not, in itself, sufficient to remove the nasty, mean, scary gun from the campus. As long as you are on public streets or private (not university) property, such as a bar, you're in the clear.
Of note, while there is no law against carrying while drinking, I would personally advise against it.

As for your work, yes, that's explicitly spelled out. You can be prevented from carrying while at your employer's workplace. You are, however, not prohibited from having your pistol locked in your vehicle on their property.(including leased)

Hope that helps!
Blessings,
Bill

 

[12bee]

So as I see it, the Gary law against some rifles and South Bends resident ban on magazines over 10 rounds, null and void now.

 

[Bill of Rights]

So as I see it, the Gary law against some rifles and South Bends resident ban on magazines over 10 rounds, null and void now.

Sure looks that way.

 

[nightjunio]

was there any law specific to Marion County

or Howard county

 

[shooter1054]

Thank you for clearing up points in the new laws BOR, and reviewing some of the old ones.

 

[Bill of Rights]

was there any law specific to Marion County

or Howard county

The legislature is not permitted to write laws in that manner, IIRC. that's why they had the language that was removed that talked about "any county with a first-class city", knowing fully well that there is only one such county in the state. To answer your question, the part of the new law that specified "a hospital containing a locked unit guarded 24/7 by law-enforcement officers" or however it was written is specific to Wishard, but the law can't be that specific.
I don't know if Howard Community hospital falls into the category of one of the provisions for county- and/or city-owned hospitals that are still allowed to have those rules. If the rules do exist in such a place, that's all they are is rules, not ordinances or laws. Nonetheless, I'd recommend following them or going elsewhere.
Standard disclaimers apply: IANAL, IDPOOTV, IDSIAHIELN, and TINLA.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[Bill of Rights]

Thank you for clearing up points in the new laws BOR, and reviewing some of the old ones.

You are quite welcome! It's a labor of love; I enjoy the study of the law, but I would much prefer if there were far fewer of them and that they were written more simply, that anyone who could read and comprehend basic English could make sense of them without the need for interpretation or for disclaimers like in my previous post.

Blessings,
Bill

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

In Senate Bill 0506

(1) the person is in or on property, or in a vehicle, that is owned, leased, rented, or otherwise legally controlled by the person

(5) the handgun is unloaded and securely wrapped.

Since these are numbered differently and (5) is not a sub of (1), I would interpret this as:
You can carry a loaded handgun in a vehicle you own.

I would interpret (5) as:
When NOT in a vehicle owned,leased, rented, or otherwise legally controlled by the person the handgun must be unloaded and securely wrapped.

Would you agree or disagree with this interpretation?

 

[IncendiaryGunner]

Nope, I was wrong - it would have to be:
(A) unloaded;
(B) not readily accessible; and
(C) secured in a case;

I was reading the introduced version from April, my mistake.

Even with that requirement, people will now be able to train and get in range time without an LTCH - a major win for the advancement of firearm safety.